climate change .. its the biggest conspirisy of them all .. its a natural cycle in the earths cycle .... bad winters .. lots of snow .. we had worse in the 30s- 50s ...
hot summers ... its been worse ... who caresw about records and highest on record statements .. truth is the weather records are no older than 100 yrs old .. we been here longer than that .. its another excuse for a goverment tax .
If you wanna sort out the energy situation .. let the people of the world enjoy the N power technology as delevloped by N. Testla but no how can you make money on that which is free ... people in the world and this country need 2 wake up and realse that brown is full of it and kick him out .

It has nothing specifically to do with Brown- it's much bigger than that.

You think Brown's replacement would be any 'better'?
Truth is, neither the premiers nor the governments of most of the countries of the world don't hold the real power; their friends, the creditors and bankers do.

Do either of you contribute in any way to solving the problem, no ? That means you are part of the problem, so wake up, stop whinging and do something.....

And phill if you are going to be a conspiracy theorist.... learn how to spell conspiracy!!

(neither the premiers nor ) is a double negative ....

It never ceases to amaze me how many imbeciles there are that want to paint climate change as a tax raising conspiracy. How humans ever invented the wheel with a gene pool like that I'll never know.

I would like to make a couple of comments. Firstly, Guy's comments are unbiased and fair and hit at the heart of the problem namely, what to believe? Phil_Arcade's position is an incredibly overly simplistic and dangerous one and burying our heads in the sand and hoping for the best just won't do at all. I have lived in Beijing for 13 years now and have seen many, many changes. Amazing sand storms due to wholesale clearing of woodlands in the 60's to fire steel production, massive construction projects like the 4th/5th and 6th ring roads in rapid timeframes...days when the pollution was so bad, simply going outside was a very, very silly idea. I also can state clearly that I have seen the best weather in Beijing in all those years in the last 12 months. Yes, this means after the Olympic clean up theory has run out of steam. March, April, May and June were incredible for blue skies, and actually many thunderstorms too that cleared the air rather nicely. We all (locals and expats) call it government sponsored rain, and I am sure it almost always is.
So, the question is, how does the old money/power base respond to the challenge of the new kid on the block? The west cannot ignore China's omnipresence as much as they can ignore their empty coffers. Yes, the balance of power is changing. Yes, we did party like hell off the back of coal and cheap labour. Yes, the US still is THE biggest polluter in the world per capita. Yes, Britain was the dirty old man of Europe and made a hefty packet that was subsequently squandered. The Chinese government have many faults, just like all governments. We might not like the way they do business, but the sooner we start dialogue from a position of mutual respect, the sooner they will put away the old dogma, and maybe even start listening to their own people more.
It's not good enough to be aggressive anymore. If we can learn anything of value from the last 400 years of western dominance, surely it should be humility in the face of a world that no longer is willing to bow to our assumed superiority.
That's my two-penneth.

Plant trees,
Get rich people to buy land,
plant more trees,
Get U.N to protect trees,
Get indigenous people to look after trees, give them right to products from trees,
Give tax breaks to people who have one child or less,
Investigate Thorium fusion as better option than nuclear,
Give money to the GREEN BELT MOVEMENT in Africa,

I might put it slightly more elegantly, but global warming is really just a variation on the witchfinders of the 17th Century. The global socialists have simply stuffed enough scientists' pockets with money to bolster spurious computer-based results when the intention is to transfer monies from the West to "backward economies"; the "carbon credits" scheme? Brown wants the West to transfer £100 Billions, presumably to Africa, enriching a few more Dictators?
Remember the hole in the ozone layer. It seems to have stopped being the immediate "threat" that global warming has now become. If Brown and the rest of our so-called Government really had wanted to do something about carbon dioxide production, we would now be enjoying the unarguable benefit of nuclear generated electricity. Completely Green. Nil CO2. But......not even a single decent proposal for us to design and build a single nuclear power station. Circulated myth - we no longer have the expertise to design and build one. Has anyone heard any suggestion to counter that assertion? No, so we sell off the appropriate sites to the French. Talk about "selling the pass". This Country has been betrayed by the people we have entrusted to govern us. Instead of taking the necessary, timely decision to renew nuclear power, Brown and his cohorts preferred to fund Europe whilst paying for it by way of a property Bubble. that inevitably nurst. This Country is no longer a free Country; it has become one, big debtors' Prison. We are all in it, in more ways than one,

Lets ignore the issues and show how witty we are . . . or accept that China has legitimate arguments with the old G7 and show the way by example and negotiation. The concept of small steps has now been accepted world wide in the last 10 years. The issue is to make it slightly more relevant and therefore slightly tougher at each change.

The next conference is an opportunity for any significant politician to propose change. As we've noticed implementation seems more difficult. The UK premier (for example) has nothing to lose personally in making the most radical proposals for any large economy and showing the way. Nobody will listen to the USA until they promise and deliver far more than they have previously. Only then can we hope that China won't demand a couple of centuries of polution to catch us up technologically. Not that they really need it.