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The Pope vs gay marriage

Mon Apr 13 10:08AM

Last week Tony Blair urged Pope Benedict XVI to change his views on gay marriage, arguing that the religious leader has an "entrenched attitude" that is in need of a rethink.

The Pope is firmly opposed to any relaxation of the Church's traditional stance on homosexuality, contraception or any other area of human sexuality and he describes homosexuality as a "tendency" towards an "intrinsic moral evil".

In an interview with Attitude magazine the former prime minister said: "We need an attitude of mind where rethinking and the concept of evolving attitudes becomes part of the discipline with which you approach your religious faith."

Historically religion has dictated onto society how people should be living their lives but now the opposite has started happening - society is demanding the church changes to keep up with their modern lifestyles.

Once upon a time when religion and politics were entwined by the monarchy people were punished for not following religion to the letter. As monarchs' powers gradually dwindled so too did the power that religion held over this, and many other countries, around the world.

But does this loss of power mean that religion should now adapt to suit us and our notions of what is right and wrong? Certainly the Pope does not think so.

The whole premise behind religion is that each faith knows it is right. Religion is the most irrationally stubborn belief known to man and so a change of stance will often look like an admittance of being wrong.

Some aspects of religion have been left behind, but often these changes have been imposed on them by serious changes in law. Very infrequently have religions changed to follow society's wishes.

And why is that? If the Pope were to take advice from Tony Blair and change his stance on gay marriage he would effectively be saying Catholicism was not 100% right.  And if it was wrong about gay marriage what else could it be wrong about?

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  1. I would like to explain the term Christian mean, it means to walk ,like Jesus if some one still wants to walk with jesus, just get out of sin, being gay is a sin [romans 1;24] religion is not a public company, which is open to every body, no christianity was , is, will remain traditional as per to the Bible. this is a road to salvation where Jesus is the way the truth and the life. People who are tied of sinning join the way which God ordered us to walk like his son Jesus Christ, for those of you who are gay, there is no complomise but you are sining against the way God made you. man and woman it will stay that way until when he comes back to take us to heaven , to hell with modernazation, choose Jesus against gay and stay in the church, if you stay with gay, get out of the church. the animals and birds and all the other chreation do not practise gay, why man? are you challenging God? are you more mordern than Him?

    christibo2007 From christibo2007 on Mon Jul 06 12:37AM

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  2. it's not sin and it's not gays, lesbians and bisexuals who want everyone to be alike

    chester30 From chester30 on Tue Jul 07 04:18PM

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  3. rejoice for Freude Schoener Goetterfunken........

    Life and Livingness and Love are all pervading and all embarrassing
    we all wake up into this plot in one way or another,
    the soft or the hard, the thoughtful or the inspired way,
    for the short term or for the long term,
    consciously or without knowing it,
    recognizing it in others and sensing it in oneself,
    but let's be assured, nothing could move without Them
    for They are the Trinity of Life - schlechthin
    make sure you glow so that the pull can call on you into the divine dance
    and form in you forms of thought and tasks that deliver from the past, unfolding
    new vistas far apart - bringing them together is the task and building a new world
    for the new wine to pour into men's minds and hearts so that That
    which awaits far above can descent into the newly prepared and awaiting hands
    ready to shape matter for the purpose of new forms and bold thoughts,
    in the spirit of the new that comes along cyclically anew, after a long pause,
    beware
    for we are on a long journey that transcends the mortal counting and the mortal coil,
    thousands of bodies we inhabit, one by one, centuries in and centuries out,
    and Who will be standing revealed at the end of this journey but
    our consciousness merged with the Absolute,
    with the Pure Spirit that dwells in It's own domain,

    for the human experience has a limited tone,

    upwards on onwards, resounds the Note, the call

    for higher places and other roads into existences unknown to human eye
    but well revealed to the searching minds of those who identify with It All.
    And these come and descent and live amongst us as men who lead us
    towards the high road made of gold from which we may teach each other
    so that we all can learn the secret code that is inscribed in the heart
    of all humanity where it pulsates in cyclical rhythms of ancient old to the
    new tunes of a new age as it dawns every 2000 years from distant shores.

    While we like to think we know it all, the fact is we do not perceive for we are dull
    in our minds and in their spectrum, for in reality each thought harbours a universe anew,
    but we have to take it steady, step by step and yes, leap by leap out
    of the heap of human flesh into the pinnacle of the all pervading ID with principles
    which govern secretly the arrangement of matter, thoughts, cries and laughter
    which underlie individual and social consciousness and seek to banish world hunger,
    uplifting human matter into realms filled with potent principles which were revealed as
    the universe exploded anew into this cyclical burst of ados which we have to refine, perfect and atune into the hierarchy of principles which govern their respective realms and halls,
    conscious cooperation with the all pervading tune allows us to sing each our own tune
    which over long time indeed will find themselves resounding with the fulfilment of thePlan
    that was perceived by the Mind that glows
    at the back of every awakening thought and in every awakening note of divine music
    that sets the tone for all our hearts to pump the Three alike, these, Life - Livingness - Love
    and many, many more which the human instrument does not note as it's capacity is low
    but for the human experiment endeavour
    These Three have to do and are supremely in Their glow and in their vibrating tone,
    set the universe alight with the songs that the Absolute plays through you, recognize
    the benefits that fit the needs of all, even though the principles of matter require the concentration of dough before it can go the round and feed all
    for what we sense as true but which escapes our view has to work out not just through few
    but indeed through us all who inhabit the human abode,
    linking the necessities and needs of the flesh and bone with the high, with the All in All
    is a delicate task and it is a process that has many modes which clash as we go
    round and round on this turning globe against the background of the celestial flows which inspire us to our own fold, star dusts intermix and form the genes of generations ahead in time, shape the minds and bodies into which we will again descent, which we will transform into higher and better domes for the Almighty Hosts who dwell all around us if only we saw the beauty of the Multitude that cares to blow Her inspirations into our bustles and flows,

    Hosts who dwell all around us if only we saw the beauty of the Multitude that cares to blow its inspirations into our bustles and flows.

    She takes us by the hand, points out what to regret and seeks to uplift each and every one into realms of active and dynamic, blazing and glowing bliss that saturates the realms in which we temporarily dwell.

    For The Multitude surrounds and bathes us all as a body of humanity and as the individual who knows he is a guest in all, for he senses and knows his true identity, the All in All.

    She knows no challenges too big in lifting up the human bodies, minds and spirits onto that path which leads back from where we all came - that is the journey of discovery in mind and in awareness, transforming the consciousness from life to life into that pure essence that simply dwells in all of us.

    Igor Zupnik, 25/26 -08 -2009

    izupnik From izupnik on Wed Aug 26 02:45AM

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  4. in the previous comment it should say: Life and Livingness and Love are all pervading and all embracing NOT embarrassing, thank you

    izupnik From izupnik on Wed Aug 26 11:36AM

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  5. Do Tony Blair think he is God. He made a fine mess of GB. Why don't he
    B....off

    agladf From agladf on Tue Oct 20 03:33PM

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  6. The Pope vs Gay marriage, sounds like a world heavy weight wrestling match.

    wulfblod93 From wulfblod93 on Sat Oct 31 12:22AM

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