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Kelly report: Time to move on

Wed Nov 04 12:18PM
Sir Christopher Kelly's recommendations are a form of bereavement counselling for expenses-stricken MPs. It's time to move on.
 
By Alex Stevenson
 
"Whether you like this or not, there's a lot to be said for just getting behind this now."Sir Christopher's message to MPs was rammed home again and again.
 
Politicians had to put the "abuses of the past behind them". MPs were kindly asked to "simply get on with it". Just as Gordon Brown has been demanding, the most important thing is to shut up and stop causing trouble.
 
Before the report's publication MPs were unlikely to take the sweeping reforms lying down. The ban on spouses has left many frustrated. Ending resettlement grants will make many worse off. The idea of renting in Camberwell or Walworth rather than SW1 will not be welcomed. Most MPs are gnashing at the teeth.
 
Yet the report is perfectly pitched to disarm MPs' attempts to challenge it. Many of the most controversial proposals - on forcing MPs to rent in London, scrapping the spouse-as-colleague, ending - are going to leave MPs unsatisfied, but bereft of ideas about how to challenge them.
 
"It is intended to be a package as a whole," Sir Christopher proclaimed.
 
"I think cherry-picking is a very bad idea because I think as soon as you open up something like this, who knows when it will stop?"
 
Many of the measures contained in the report will persuade MPs that there remains much to play for. However much today's recommendations will seek to proscribe future rules, MPs quietly studying the report in their taxpayer-funded offices will realise they should be able to engage in strenuous damage limitation.
 
Travel expenses should only be claimed for journeys where the "primary purpose and predominant activity are the fulfilment of parliamentary duties". MPs' second jobs are permitted provided they are kept within "reasonable limits". Who is to say where the grey line is crossed?
 
Yes, the old culture was "deplorable". Yes, the "backwash" over other areas has been devastating. That doesn't mean individual MPs can't take a look at the Kelly recommendations and think: I'm not giving up yet.

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  1. Why should MP's be able to claim their Council Tax back, we have to pay this out of our standard pay, they introduced this hated tax and are then able to claim it back. Come on Kelly, think again!

    johnf.h From johnf.h on Wed Nov 04 12:34PM

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  2. That doesn't mean individual MPs can't take a look at the Kelly recommendations and think: I'm not giving up yet.

    Is that a triple negative? What is this sentence saying? Giving up what? Challenging the report? Fiddling expenses? Their role in parliament? Please clarify.

    mattgough From mattgough on Wed Nov 04 12:46PM

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  3. Why should MPs claim for food as well, our shopping bill is paid from our wages, They know what the situation is, if they don't agree with the terms don't apply for the job,And every last penny of their ill gotten gains should be paid back to the taxpayer

    mauricedarling From mauricedarling on Wed Nov 04 12:48PM

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  4. I agree with the above comments. I'd add the prosecution for the fraud MPs have commited so far. I would expect this to be treated in the same way as someone who fiddles the benefit system or tries to dodge paying tax.

    satsumo From satsumo on Wed Nov 04 12:55PM

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  5. I think there are a lot of middle-aged MPs of all parties that are going to sit quietly, seething and vowing revenge, until the forthcoming "nuclear blast" of the Election is past. Then the survivors, precisely like the survivors of a nuclear attack will arise like some army of the undead and wreak vengeance. I hope most of them lose their seats to independents. Wishful thinking, pigs might fly. Time to call in Peter Cushing.

    tidswell454 From tidswell454 on Wed Nov 04 01:03PM

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  6. In defense of MP's, valid expenses should be paid for them to do their job. The numbers that I have heard on the news regarding lodging costs per month are just stupid. MP's should not be out of pocket in any way in performing their duties and the current proposals would result in hardship, and ultimately nobody wanting to do the job. It would appear that the Kelly report has gone to the other extreme, maybe with a voiew to getting public confidence back.

    johnjpettitt From johnjpettitt on Wed Nov 04 01:12PM

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  7. agreed johnpettitt - but when 90% of them BLATANTLY take the piss then they can all @#$% off -

    jamesdean2002uk From jamesdean2002uk on Wed Nov 04 01:40PM

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  8. There is every reasonable intent in MPs being paid expenses incurred "wholly and exclusively" in their role as MP. Yes, there are areas where an expense overlaps and it is straightforward to identify a reasonable (Not "reasonable"...that's a different emphasis) split. The problem was minor when being an MP involved the requirement to be a person of integrity and MPs(or most of them) were honoured and honourable people. Gradually, though, the poisonous Party system captured the place, its ethos and its rules. Patronage and a willingness on the part of Party "back-room boys to do anything to get power and stay in it, including bribing MPs with our money, has done for Westminster. Cameron's latest "U-turn" on the referendum is but an indicator of a man with no honour. He should not make "Cast Iron" promises he cannot keep. He cannot dissemble that "a promise" is not "an undertaking", but the nicety is just that. A man who breaks promises before he gets into power isn't fit to be trusted with the position with power susequently. It is no defence to suggest that "Politicians are in the business of lying". Then let us stop Politicians lying by not electing them. Let us insist that lies, in or out of Parliament, will not be tolerated. It didn't used to be, and we don't have to accept it now. Dishonest is dishonest is dishonest. Simples!

    tidswell454 From tidswell454 on Wed Nov 04 01:43PM

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  9. matt - in a triple negative, it is easy to get the sense by reversing two of the negatives, hence: "That doesn't mean individual MPs can't take a look at the Kelly recommendations and think: I'm not giving up yet. " is equivalent to "That *does* mean individual MPs *can* take a look at the Kelly recommendations and think: I'm not giving up yet." It's really not that hard if you learn to speak english.

    droctavian From droctavian on Wed Nov 04 01:47PM

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  10. ALL of these "promises" to clean-up Westminster, and bring the MPs in line are wholly laughable, we have a pointless & powerless PM-whom only interest is the furtherance of his own power, we also have Harriet Harmann a woman whose connivance (and self-interest) are clear.And then we have the Speaker, a little S@@T who has absolutely no interest in looking at flipping-due to him being involved in the practise 3 times.Lastly the MPs-does anyone seriously believe that the house is going to clear its utter corruption overnight?if that were the case Blair would also have his expenses delved into...

    l.murray.31 From l.murray.31 on Wed Nov 04 01:57PM

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