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    Why work experience is a good investment for us all

    When you are a child, complex issues are often greeted with the phrase: "Don't worry, you’ll understand when you’re older."

    But even when you become an adult matters remain confusing. Especially if you are young and trying to get a job.

    There are now more than a million young people unemployed in Britain – with more than 20% of 16-24 year olds not in employment or education.

    The job centre is becoming an increasingly likely prospect for youths coming out of education.

    That means when you leave school or university you’re not just fighting with people in your year for the few jobs available, you’re fighting with people in the year above you, and the year above them and the other 2.67million people looking for jobs in Britain at the moment.

    Which in desperate times leads to desperate measures.

    Student Hugh Chadwick resorted to clutching a cardboard sign at a busy road junction in Birmingham for days on end before finding out this week he had clinched a position with an engineering company.

    For the 20-year-old it was important to work. And for society to function it is important for the young to be able to go out and get a job.
    Not only does it give us money with which to buy goods and services but it also binds us to an ethic which will provide for us throughout our lives.

    And it is against this backdrop that a variety of initiatives have been put forward by Government ministers.

    So it is right that they should do all they can to avoid the energy and ideas of a generation being drained away by an economy that doesn’t work for them, even when they’re willing to work for it. 

    But the Coalition’s Work Experience scheme has been mired in controversy.
    The scheme enables young jobseekers to work for a number of large companies in administrative, retail and technical jobs. As part of this they continue to earn their job-seekers' allowance by putting in 30 hours a week.

    Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith, writing in the Mail explained: “The thinking behind the initiative is the recognition that when considering whether to take a young person on, employers will highly value any relevant work experience.”


    But in asking young (often highly educated) people to work for large companies for free, ministers are putting young people in a curious quandary.

    Yes, they want to work but no, they don't want to feel as if they are being taken advantage of.

    These types of work experience schemes used to be solely for competitive and desirable industries. Not jobs to give you the taste of doing a job.

    But you have to start somewhere, right? Too many people believe in the myth of overnight success on display in shows like X Factor.

    But what those same dreamers fail to understand is that even those who succeed there have put in years of hard work and practice before being 'discovered'.

    No one succeeds in the long term without putting in the effort and we must build a base for industry where these temporary positions lead to well paid and meaningful jobs.

    But if there is a responsibility on the young to take these positions, there is an ever greater responsibility on the companies that employ them to ensure they do not take advantage of the dire economic straits we find ourselves in.

     

    47 comments

    • gill  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      Work experience is not good for the parents who have to keep their children for nothing...I am a single parent and "thank god i only have one child"...I work full time for min wage and am finding it so difficult to keep my home, pay bills and feed my ever growing son...
      • JAMES 3 months ago
        You should leave the country, come in on the back of a lorry, tell them you're not from here and the world will be your oyster you'll be re housed and money thrown at you, and, you won't need to work anymore !!
      • gill 3 months ago
        Haa...so right James...seems you got to be foreign to get anything from this Government....
      • mark l 3 months ago
        That's not true James but your point that the government just get us parents to carry the can while our children work for free for these massive blue chip companies is not right.But hey I don't care about these MP's why because what ever happens it only affects us little people never these MP's take travel costs if they increase them reduce then these MP's don't care it has no impact on their life what so ever because they earn so much doing nothing but gasing all day and night about rubbish.
    • J  •  London, England  •  2 months ago
      a compleet waist of the persons time ,bettter of committing crimes than bother about job-seekers' allowance .the crime rate will go through the roof.
    • PAUL  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
      A rather wishy washy article if I may say so. It fails to mention the tens of millions of pounds made by large companies, such as Tesco, using what is to them "free" labour. I doubt that it was voluntary and was under duess which is probaly illegal as a form of compulsory work.Put together with that woman who paid herself 8 million pounds of OUR money for a useless job scheme, not mentioned in the article, it shows scams organised by govt ,and friends of Cameron, are as bad if not worse than ordinary con mens efforts.
      • Shmucktyoldschmeister 3 months ago
        Wishy washy is right. He sounds like the out-of-touch sort who feels he should say a few words about the issue without any real conviction or passion, detached because none of it will affect his life.
    • jennie  •  Sheffield, England  •  3 months ago
      20 years ago the company I worked for took on a "work experience" lad. He got the experience, he got a decent wage and he stayed on after the required period of time and became a success. He had, at the time, the dignity of taking home a bit of reasonable money and knowing he was learning a trade. Where is the dignity in stacking shelves for some giant supermarket chain for nothing???????It's not a case of being a "job snob" - a bit of personal dignity is surely not too much to ask, or should we all be touching our forelock and grateful for the crumbs that fall off the table?
      • Wombat Warrior 3 months ago
        What is undignified about working for a living? Working in a supermarket is a proper job - tens of thousands earn a living that way.
        Even stacking shelves is respectable work, you would be the first to complain if the shelves of your supermarket were empty. And not everybody in a supermarket stacks shelves, they have butchers, fishmongers, bakers warehousemen and lots of other trades.
        This disgusting job snobbery is why we are paying millions of our own people to stay at home and importing millions of foreigners to do the work.
      • meep 3 months ago
        I think the point you are missing or just too ignorant to see Wombat is yes its a proper job but they aren`t being paid a proper wage 30 hours a week for the JSA equates out to about 2 quid an hour add in the fact the stores doing this don`t have to pay contributions and you end up with a situation where its cheaper for the companies involved to NOT give jobs to people but to rely on a constant supply of state provided slaves.
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        but meep, how could they ever rely on a constant supply of these people, after all, there are only 2.7 million unemployed people and almost 500,000 empty jobs for them to go to.
    • A Yahoo! user  •  Sheffield, England  •  3 months ago
      Emma Harrison picked up £9 million last year providing "work experience".. Get real, it's a con. You know it and so does everyone else. David Blunkett is a former director of her company and no one would trust him to sit the right way round on a bog. Emma has recently quit saying "she doesn't want her issues to detract from A4E's valuable work". I think her last statement to the A4E staff went along the lines of "burn everything and shoot yourselves".If we have a shred of justice left in Britain that cow should be in a dock.
      • alistair 3 months ago
        What exactly should she be in the dock for? Fraud? The fraud was discovered by A4Es own internal auditors - that is what they are there for.

        Meanwhile, GPs are swindling the Tax-payer out of £150 million each year claiming for non-existent patients and not a word is said...
      • Christine 3 months ago
        Probably because individual ones are claiming nothing like the £9 m ascribed to Emma. Injustice spread among the multitudes is surprisingly effective at hiding the scale of shared wrongdoing.
      • A Yahoo! user 3 months ago
        Fraud would be good Allistair. Perhaps her father and the asset stripped steel company he used to run might like to join her.
    • Iain Parkes  •  Stoke-on-Trent, England  •  3 months ago
      Free labour just means that companies will continue to use it rather than actually provide real jobs with real pay.
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        surely not, how could you suspect such a thing...

        aren't market forces supposed to balance out rampant profiteering or something :P
      • RedTez 3 months ago
        Remember the YT scheme these spiteful nasty Torys inflicted on us all those years ago when they were last in govt?? Remember what happened - when your 6mths, 1 year or 2 year scheme was over, no matter how hard you worked, you were flung out back on the dole because the employer could just get another YT operative for £10 per week. Meanwhile - back on planet earth, the ex YT operative is now trained for a job they never were likely to get and are upto 2 years older stuck in a dead end - no longer eligible to join the apprentice scheme or any other mainstream training scheme because the schemes took school leavers and they are now too old!! Looked good on paper though and although some made good through the yts scheme - 95% were messed up and trapped on the unemployed scrap heap!!

        Make our politicians make real jobs with real wages for us - MAKE THEM EARN THEIR MONEY!!

        Best Regards ALL
      • Larkenpit 12 days ago
        RedTez;
        The wages system can never be "fair" that is not its purpose,which is profit for those who possess but do not produce and the wages system is the manner in which this is achieved.
        If you think the "politicians make real jobs with real wages for us" is a practical solution you had better think again, hard work?
        Read "Wage Labour and Capital " K Marx, for an understanding of the wages system and the exploiting class divided social system we live in.
        It is time for the working class, the majority class today, to terminate capitalism and its working class problems, unemployment, poverty, homelessness, and starvation and of course the wars inherent in this divided class society that now exists.
        To many workers are waiting for someone else to do it for them, that's believing the conditioning "training scheme" you get from birth.
        Socialists are wih Marx on the question of wages and the trade unions.
        The labour market and employment is not a level playing field but a site of class conflict and struggle; effectively a political struggle over the ownership of the means of living, production and distribution.
        It is no use trade union leaders calling for " fairness" about cuts in the level of pensions any more than it is for the capitalist left to demand the "right to work" under capitalism.
        If workers want to work creatively to meet people's needs and have security in old age that common ownership and democratic control of the means of production and distribution will give them, then they first must understand and then establish Socialism.
    • Plockton  •  3 months ago
      A continuation of Clegg’s scheme of which unscrupulous employers still take the subsidies to get more cheap labour. There will be few permanent jobs gained as a result of this - past schemes have shown this.

      There is enough work in this country to go around.

      Excessive overtime, imported immigrant labour, people being re-employed in the same job when they have previously taken a redundancy payment and foreign based call-centres have all taken work from genuine job-seekers young and mature alike.

      Where an employee is retired, the work is spread around the remaining workforce rather than the vacancy being advertised. This is not done for efficiency but sheer greed.

      Despite the illusion of the so-called economic downturn, it is not beyond the ability of true industrial expertise and genuine political will to ensure our young people (and the rest of the available UK workforce) have a decent employment opportunity. However, all the gibberish from politicians and business "leaders" is a smokescreen to keep ordinary people at heel and to allow the rich grow ever more rich.

      The people of the UK will not be fooled by this latest round of Clegg’s "initiative" although I am getting sick of well-heeled commentators telling us it is character building for our youth to have the p I s h ripped out of them.
    • ScholarOfBabylon  •  Birmingham, England  •  3 months ago
      Keep the printed word from the serfs less they learn to think for themselves!. Simple fact is that the rich loooove this work for your dole money scheme they've found a way around permanent employment, how to keep people perpetually indebted to them and how to make people work below the minimum wage. The sound of grubby hands clasped and rubbing greedily is deafening!!
    • DAVID  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      You're an idiot. If companies can simply point the government teat at a new mouth every six weeks instead of actually employing people and paying them out of company coffers, not only does it not reduce the taxpayers' burden, but it means *more* long-term jobless and *fewer* long-term jobs, because what company will use their own money to hire someone when they can have the government/taxpayers pick up the bill? Then sooner or later, of course, the employment market will collapse, as there'll be far fewer people with the experience or training needed. Cue more immigration of qualified people, leading to more reactionary backlash against immigrants... Is anybody seeing an upside here, cos I'm not.
    • Amethyst velvet  •  3 months ago
      Deja-vu?
    • RedTez  •  3 months ago
      The author of this unthoughtful article ought to be unpaid - take 4 weeks working with no pay and then nothing at the end of it and come back and write a knowlegeable article where you know what it is your talking about!!

      Just flipping PAY THEM!!

      Best Regards ALL
    • Andrew P  •  London, England  •  2 months ago
      Wishy washy b*******! The Work Experience Scheme is not even wage slavery, it's just plain slavery full stop. Don't conflate doing an internship in something like the entertainment industry with stacking shelves in the 99p Shop. 'It is my dream to eventually get paid for working". Doesn't rub when the companies in question are raking in billions- Tesco I understand takes £1 in every £8 spent in this country. Giving them free labour at the tax payers expense does not improve the prospects of young unemployed people, in fact it makes it that much worse as you are now undercutting their poverty wages by people who are on subsistence level JSA! Through Duncan Smith on the bloody scheme and see how he likes it!
    • Waino  •  London, England  •  2 months ago
      my post was deleted was it too close to being true
    • darren  •  2 months ago
      i left school 22 years ago and have seen it all - yts, surviving redundancy, back to work etc.
      its ALL an excuse for someone to make money off the unemployed.
      In fact i see very few proper on the job training placements such as the pharmacy apprenticeship i am applying for now and it pays 12.5k while training,,, but thats the differance between a COOP and a stock market money grubbing corperation.
    • robert l  •  Watford, England  •  3 months ago
      such tripe please tell me you wrote this under work experience and heaven forbid were not paid hard cash ----drip
    • Joaquin Gash  •  Wigan, England  •  3 months ago
      It's no coincidence that those who champion these 'Work experiences' aren't the ones being forced to do them........Surely, if we have a Legal Minimum Wage, it is then illegal to force somebody to work for less than it?..................or am I getting early dementia?
    • Vicki  •  Doncaster, England  •  2 months ago
      why work experiance is good for us all THE RICH, because it brings back slave labour and the rich get richer while the poor and jobless get screwed
    • KENNETH  •  Manchester, England  •  2 months ago
      Are all these schemes low skilled and easily learned? Are their any schemes where you can learn something that requires skill and training? Bet you don't get many Eton boys on these.
    • Lorne I  •  St Albans, England  •  3 months ago
      what a patronising load of cobblers
    • Jim  •  Liverpool, England  •  3 months ago
      I worked for a company in Liverpool that used to organise proper work experience programmes with employers. Using European money matched by the local authorities and the government, we used to secure people placements with employers of up to 51 weeks at minimum wage, and the employers could usually be persuaded to put up a couple of thou to make the wages realistic. The employers had the option of keeping these people for 51 weeks, as I said, with most of their wages paid by other funds. It was rare that anyone spent more than 6 months on the programme, because employers, convinced of their value, would normally employ them at that point in the programme, so we could take on someone else. Most of those who took part ended up with real jobs. The A4e programme (and we worked with them too) doesn't help anyone. Note that she's getting out now, when the payment that A4e will receive will depend on results (number of people into full time jobs), nopt as before, being paid for heloing someone to "write a CV", which can be done in 5 minutes.