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    Moody's Puts UK Rating On Negative Outlook

    Credit ratings agency Moody's has issued official notice to Britain and the Bank of England that their credit ratings are at risk of a potential downgrade.The agency blamed "increased uncertainty regarding the pace of fiscal consolidation in the UK due to materially weaker growth prospects over the next few years, with risks skewed to the downside".

    It also said the economy remains vulnerable to the eurozone crisis.

    France and Austria have been similarly graded - on negative outlook - while the ratings for Italy, Spain, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia and Malta have been lowered.

    The decision was a surprise to investors and economists.

    They had assumed that Moody's would follow the lead of its fellow ratings agencies, Fitch and Standard and Poor's, and downgrade euro members while leaving Britain's rating untouched.

    It also comes as the rate of inflation is expected to drop in Britain to its lowest level in two years in a sign that the pressure on cash-strapped households has started to ease.

    Although Moody's decision still leaves the UK's top-level AAA rating unchanged, a negative outlook implies that the rating could be downgraded in the coming years.

    Alastair Wilson, chief credit officer for Moody's in Europe, told Sky News: "All we're saying in putting the triple A rating on a negative outlook is that there is a very, very slightly higher risk associated with lending to the UK.

    "But remember the risks associated with lending to a triple A are very, very low."

    The decision is a significant blow for the Chancellor, who made it one of his manifesto pledges at the 2010 election to safeguard Britain's AAA rating.

    In a statement released after the Moody's decision was announced, George Osborne said: "This is proof that, in the current global situation, Britain cannot waver from dealing with its debts.

    "Moody's are explicit that it is only the Government's 'necessary fiscal consolidation' that is stopping an immediate downgrade, which would happen if there were any 'reduced political commitment to fiscal consolidation including discretionary loosening'.

    "This is a reality check for anyone who thinks Britain can duck confronting its debts."

    Labour's Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls said: "Moody's is clear in its statement that the primary reason for Britain's negative outlook is 'weaker growth prospects' which are making it harder to get the deficit down.

    "With our economy now in reverse, unemployment at a 17 year high and £158bn extra borrowing to pay for economic failure, the case for a change of course and a real plan for jobs and growth is growing by the day."

    Alistair Darling, who was chancellor the last time the UK was put on negative outlook, said it was worth "taking note" of rating agencies as they reflect market sentiment, but acknowledged they do not have an unblemished record.

    He emphasised the importance of improving growth.

    "Austerity on its own cannot work," he told Boulton and Co.

    Looking ahead to the Budget next month, he called on the Government to "reflect on where the economy actually is, because it is a 100 miles from where they thought it would be".

     
    • josiema  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      Now is this right? Moody's is one of those 3 American expert companies who didn't realise that the banks were going bust due to gambling. Maybe we shold downgrade them!
      • EDWARD 3 months ago
        Josiema, that is the most fantastic comment ive read on here!
      • R.P. Murphy 3 months ago
        People have to realise this is nothing but fraud on a truly massive scale.
        This is how it works.
        1: Private centralised banks create money out of nothing. All they issue is promises not backed by anything but faith i those promises.
        2: They loan this money to governments at interest (it is all owed back plus the interest)
        3: This money is deposited in localised banks.
        4: Through fractional reserve banking, these banks loan out 9 times more money than they have on deposit. Again all at interest. They do not lend money on deposit. They create new money through an agreement to lend coupled with an agreement to repay.
        5: This means there are more debts than money to pay them.
        6: The money system can only be maintained by issuing more money. i.e. new debts.
        7: Recessions are not caused by personal or sovereign debts (these are indemic in the system and will always be bigger than the money available to pay them.)
        8: Recessions are brought about by those who control the money supply restricting it. That is, banks calling in loans and issuing less.
        9: Banks use this deliberate contraction to force austerity and hardship for several reasons. To bully governments. To panic people. To wear the populace down. To manipulate markets so that they can obtain control over tangible assets.
        10: Sovereign debts pile up higher because they cannot ever be paid off, plus austerity and cuts perversely only cause debts to rise quicker.
        11: The centralised banks obtain a perpetual stream of income via our taxes.

        Credit ratings agencies are just the bully boys of the centralised banks. This is fascism via the balance sheet. We are being conned into believing we need to pay these debts off. We should refuse.
      • Edwin 3 months ago
        sub prime rated aaa by one of them
    • ALLAN P  •  3 months ago
      Wall Street manipulating the market.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        On behalf of rothschild and rockefeller
      • James Stuart 3 months ago
        I totally agree with you both, this is the REAL CORRUPTION
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        on behalf of JP morgan and goldman sachs
    • R.P. Murphy  •  Crewe, England  •  3 months ago
      There is no need to allow Moody's any influence over our credit rating, and here's why.
      Moody's, Standard and Poor and all credit ratings agencies are just market manipulators working for the Fed, BoE, ECB, IMF, World Bank J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citibank and numerous others.
      They are insipid creatures who have only one business model. Manufacture debts out of thin air by issuing money as debts with interest. Centralised banks do not loan out deposits. They created new money with every loan that is issued. In other words they create all new money as debts owed back to themselves.
      It is a fraudulent system. Add interest to these initial debts and there is more debts than money to pay them.

      We are not in recession because of personal debt, sovereign debts, or manufacturing decline. These are merely symptoms. We are in recession because centralised banks have deliberately reduced the money supply. i.e. they are calling in loans and issuing less new ones.
      This is a very old trick and has been used many times throughout history. People need to read their history books to realise how we are being conned into believing we actually owe these debts.

      We need to take this power over our lives out of the hands of private centralised banks because they have only one plan, and that is to saddle us with sovereign debts that the taxpayer will be forced to pay off, thus providing themselves with an endless stream of income that they do not have to work for.
      • R.P. Murphy 3 months ago
        Until we have complete reform of the global monetary system, this will not change.
        The ultimate war will be the one that has been fought on a smaller scale many times before. The people Vs The banks.
      • OLI 3 months ago
        Good stuff Murph. Very succinct and eloquent !
      • Crystal Ball 3 months ago
        Very educational Mr.R.M.Murphy. What has often gone through my mind, is that as the money is poured into the system, it is Syphoned out, by whom? the money does not go into circulation, to stimulate the economy? Perhaps you know the answer. Is it the "Rotchild Cartel", Syphoning the money and preventing it from going into circulation, poised to buy up companies as they collapse, at bargain prices? To gain control of key industries? Perhaps to also control governments, that have to be "bailed out" like the Greek Government. We don't hear anymore, how Iceland is doing? They were the first to go under in the collapse of the economy. Your response will be greatly appreciated. Pull no punches in your reply. Thanks
    • JOHN  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      How is it that somewhere on the other side of the Atlantic someone can dictate and manipulate this country's economic recovery with impunity? Does this mean that after all this pain and deprivation that has been inflicted upon us with this government's austerity measures we still end up in the mire? It seems to me that we have no control over our own financial destiny and the people in the world who have the money aren't going to lend us any unless we pay them extortionate amounts of interest. Why doesn't the government own up to the country and admit that they have very little or no control over what happens to the financial well being of its people? and when they give the impression that they are in control they are in fact just piddling in the wind.
      • THOMAS 3 months ago
        Sorry to tell you the truth, but it is the Euro-criminals including our political elite in Whitehall and Downing Street that are manipulating our Economy. If you look around the World and look at the spread of Left/Labour/Democrat Governments and the fact that there is negative rate of worldwide interest, that situation doesn't happen without a lot of conspiracy between various deposit-taking Countries to make it impossible for "Market Forces" ie ordinary competition to pay a sensible rate. This entire crisis has been stage-managed and is essentially the case that it is due to China refusing to "invest" her surplus foreign earnings in letting the Yanks live beyond their means. What you've seen happening is a "World War" by economic warfare; God knows who won it, but it is still going on and we are paying for it, as we normally do with these sort of things.
      • David 3 months ago
        Thomas, you need to get out in the real world. America is the ONLY country since 1945 that has increased its land space. It has invaded a great many countries with its corrupt and poisionous food outlets and corrupt immoral tv shows and films.
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        well.. you remember how we used to have this thing called the british empire, and we subjegated half the planet and stole all their resources, and had representatives of our government - and even companies licesned by our government - that ran their countries and collected all the taxes and stuff...

        well somebody else is in charge now and we are just an also ran in histories great game.
    • DAVID  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      BREAKING NEWS! I've just down rated Moodys
    • IllyaSolinhand  •  Barcelona, Spain  •  3 months ago
      Curious. Ratings agencies are interlinked with the finance industry. The finance industry makes money on economic crises. Now why would a rating agency downgrade ratings for different countries ...?
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        because it pushes up the interest rates and ensures a higher ROI on what are essentially guaranteed debts, being payed as they are out of the public purse.
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        oh bugger, did i just say that in a public forum?
      • Dr Redthumb 3 months ago
        oh well, it's alright, they can always default and just not pay the debt
        yeah, see, it can't be a con...

        but hang on, wouldn't that mean they got seriously downgraded and had to pay loan shark interest for the next 20 years or so??

        Well yeah, but it'd be the pension funds that lost all their money and that's just little peoples money, the big institutions would have pulled out a couple of years ago and will make an absolute killing out of the new higher interest rates.

        Dagnammit, now i'm talking to myself again.

        Might as well be.
    • CHRISTOPHER MICHAEL  •  3 months ago
      I think these credit agencies are currency speculators manipulating things regardless of the cost in human misery, a curse on them.
    • GSP  •  3 months ago
      Why is it that all of the rating agencies are in USA - where the financial problem began.
      And they never saw it coming?
      They are just manipulating the market.
    • Chris Knight  •  3 months ago
      This is just another ploy by the yanks to control the market. Every time they downgrade a country they strengthen them selves. Brittain is not part of the eurozone which shows America, by the back door is trying to undermine the EEC nations. Come on europe, play them at their own game by upgrading the value of the dollar. Makes it harder for them to export.
    • thedogwalker  •  3 months ago
      Seems to me that the tail is wagging the dog here. Aren't these credit rating agencies supposed to reflect the economic status rather than determine them. Seems a lot of power in the hands of so few faceless individuals. Who is to say they don't have their own agenda. Who are these agencies actually answerable to.
    • Pork Pie  •  3 months ago
      Pity Moody's where not on the ball to spot the pre collapse of Sub Prime Mortgages back in 2008 that started all this mess...when there own in the US are living in tents and and storm drain culverts in Vegas.. Stuff Moodys, do you think you are God !!!!
    • Ronsenglish  •  Zhangzhou, China  •  3 months ago
      Who are Moody's? What are credit ratings agencies? Why had we never heard of them 2 years ago? Why do they have the power to manipulate the worlds finances? How do they earn a living. Who pays them?
    • andy  •  3 months ago
      same agencies that gave lehmans and other banks triple a in 2008
    • Jay M  •  3 months ago
      At last they've found the right place for UK in the world. I was thinking is this place still counted as a developed country. This country now runs just from tax payers' money. Nothing is produced in the country. Everything is from china. Whatever the place this country owns now is not surprising but heart breaking.
    • Halal Pork  •  3 months ago
      None of this is real. Money isn't even real. It's all just BS invented by the banks and manipulated by companies such as the above mentioned....

      Pay it no heed and it might just go away.
    • A and A  •  3 months ago
      and have they yet downgraded the cause of all this - the USA? financially and morally bankrupt!
    • a gift  •  3 months ago
      not that i want to say i told you so but ,every serious economic commentator told you also
    • VALEYIE  •  Winsford, England  •  3 months ago
      How can a private company who got so much wrong dictate economic policies of other countries from the U.S. ??? Someone is set to gain most likely and the austerity measures as usual will hit the poorest hardest the same poorest people who played no part in the irresponsibility which caused this mess in the first place
    • hotsand  •  3 months ago
      So another bunch of money grabbers, in the closet with the banks to screw every penny they can from countries, has started the idea of GB Ltd being downgraded. Can we now have an end to handing banks money which simply dissapears up there Backsides never to be seen agian, and start handing the cash to UK citizens instead? I'm now waiting for the inevitable - just lik the Greeks -hit the poorest by dropping pensions benfits minimum wage by 20% -work 4 days to live in poverty, and one for the bankers..
    • Crystal Ball  •  3 months ago
      Stop giving our money away, if we want to keep our "TRIPLE A" status. Money leaves a paper trail, does the govenment give an account to the taxpayers, how the "Aid Money" is spent.? No they don't! And why not? According to the BBC radio interview, with the new head of RBS last week, he mentioned "That the £45B giiven by the government, has been lost, and that RBS is asking for a further £25B"? £45B has been lost? Now this leaves a big question unanswered, who is looking after the "Treasury's books? (your and my money). Try telling your bank, that the money they loaned you "has been lost" and that you can't repay the money. They will hound you unceasingly by mail and telephone with all kinds of threats. (I experienced this for two months, when the bank made a mistake, even dough I did not owe them a penny).