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    NHS reforms blamed for Tories' lost poll lead

    By politics.co.uk staff

    A five-point Conservative lead has evaporated amid public hostility to the coalition's NHS reforms, according to a new poll.

    Research by ICM for the Guardian newspaper saw both the Tories and Liberal Democrats suffer as an outright majority of public opinion turned against the government's controversial changes to the health service.

    Fifty-two per cent of respondents believe the health and social care bill should be dropped completely, compared to 33% who prefer to stick with the reforms.

    Public hostility to the changes appears to be having a negative impact on broader support for the coalition's two parties.

    The Conservatives slipped from 40% to 35% in just one month, while the Lib Dems dropped two points to 14%. Labour advanced by one point to 36%, ending a bad period trailing behind the government for Ed Miliband.

    Andrew Lansley's reforms are even unpopular among those who say they would vote for the coalition.

    Television footage of the health secretary being heckled and jostled by angry protesters outside Downing Street yesterday could have attracted support from the 57% of Lib Dems and 31% of Conservatives who said they were opposed to the changes.

    Older respondents tended to be firmer in their opposition. Young voters aged between 18 and 24 actually backed going ahead with the reforms by 46% to 39%. Those over 65 want the government to abandon the legislation by 56% to 29%.

     

    22 comments

    • CJ MESSENGER  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Is it any suprise.The coalition said very clearly before the election, 'no top down reforms to NHS'.They both lied as on other matters.As the election was so close those lies clearly swung it .Electors should remember that we cannot trust Tories with NHS .(and I guess ditto Lib/DemThe previous government for all its faults increased staffing and finance in the NHS after little increase in NHS funds in 80's/90's.As a result patient care improved and waiting times fell.It will now go in reverse.
      • Whatsupdoc 3 months ago
        Besides being elected, the only qualification you need to become an MP is a degree in medacity.
      • mick b 3 months ago
        its already in reverse .I have been waiting 2 year for a spinal op .But being 71 its probably ageism, no problems when labour was in office , only waited 4 months for a new shoulder . had care that was 2 to none. then the torys got power ,now its the same old story when ever they get power they have allways hated the nhs .It dosnt make there pals a profit
      • NHS Worker - Manchester. 3 months ago
        I wish they would just leave us alone.... how about getting the bloody useless all singing national NHS computer system to work? Cameron.. try fixing what has already been imposed on us and dont impose more idiocy on people trying to do a valuable service to the people of this country.

        Valuable service...? Not something you could say about Cameron and Andy pandy lansley!
    • remember thatcher  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Oh and it has nothing to do with how they are wrecking peoples lives with their cuts on the working people.
    • MICHELLE  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Its about time but the labour party may need to re-consider their lead....While Ed Miliband may be nice!!!!! nice doesn't run the country!!!!
      • ANDREW STRACHAN 3 months ago
        Right enough Michelle, Dave Nice-but-Dim can't run the country either!
      • Allen 3 months ago
        all our glorious leaders are too weak to run a nursery
      • Waino 3 months ago
        no that is true, however being lied to at the election about the NHS is what people will remember, the real issue is not the NHS per say, more about honesty on a manifesto.
    • NEDDIE SEAGOON  •  Morecambe, England  •  3 months ago
      Cameron will walk awy from the next european summit and his poll ratings will shoot up again this is the only card he can play and the gullible public will fall for it time and time again his only interests are himself and his rich banker cronies
      • Walter b masson 3 months ago
        What card is that he will play in the eu ? Givong away more Sovereignty hope so ? He promised a referendum ? But after all promises ? He will do it his way as that plonkers in the uk will just take a back seat ? I AM THE RICH EATON BOY ?AND NOT LISTENING TO YOU MINNOWS ?
    • bob  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      oh how sad i really am upset poor things..never mind the sun/express will cook up some fake report on how there are several trillion benefit scroungers living in gold plated palaces and urinating on the union flag or something..
    • cru  •  3 months ago
      This will become camerons poll tax moment, it is privatisation, no matter how the tories dress it up, they will lose the next election if this goes through, they will listen to no one, remember camerons promise?, I will be a listening prime minister, he is not listening and will pay dearly for it.
    • Whatsupdoc  •  Runcorn, England  •  3 months ago
      It won't be just the poll lead they will lose. They won't stand a chance at the next election. Voters should get rid of every MP who votes for Lansley's Bill.
    • REGINALD L  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Mr Cameron i going to see you all leaving office come the election because labour will walk it the people asked for a referendom on th Dreaded EU you did not listen.
      People dont want your changes on N.H.S at all and to top it free bus passes you are trying to get rid of and cold weather payments too.
      You should do what you said you said we can call you to book well call an election then it will prove we can call you to books if you dont do your job because i think you are doing a very bad job full stop and dont listen to the people why .
      The people put you in office at least give them the chance too take you out.
    • overtaxed for life  •  3 months ago
      No party will be popular all the time it is taking, taking, taking.
      NHS reforms on top of pension reforms, after reducing heating allowance for the pensioners.
      Than employing the CPI for increases to pensions which is not the true rate of inflation as the RPI is.
      Everything this government has done has cost the ordinary citizen more tax and a lower living standard.
    • Waino  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Well they only have themselves to blame, or rather Mr Cameron to blame, who seems stuck on the first page of tory dogma and just does not see that this is the perception a significant number of people have arrived at,over the last few weeks
    • Reg the Vacuum Cleaner  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      NHS reforms are only part of the reason.... then there's tuition Fees, weakness over europe, the abu khatara farce, saber-rattling towards iran and argentina, failing to do anything about the economy, bringing back hunting, bankers bonuses, declaring war on social drinkers, the greed, the hypocracy, the pretence that 'we are all in it together', the pretence that they're not just upper-class toffs and so on and so on
      • mick b 3 months ago
        well said that says it all
      • NHS Worker - Manchester. 3 months ago
        Shall we include bedroom tax and tuition fees? Goverment depressed interest rates meaning everyones pensions are failing and of course, Cameron and Osbourns solution is for the ordinary workers to pay more....
    • attila the hen  •  Manchester, England  •  2 months ago
      Cameron is pursuing policies of mass destruction
    • martin  •  3 months ago
      And where did the rest of the 'percentage' go?
      Probably to the BNP but our corrupt anti-democratic establishment and media barrons would NEVER print the whole truth.
      Cons down five. Libs down two. But Labour only up one?
      Where's the missing SIX percent?
      • NHS Worker - Manchester. 3 months ago
        Martin... they are outside A & E trying to get treatment before the service is privatised...
      • Blondie 3 months ago
        I hope the BNP get loads of seats, I think they would look after us better than all the other parties.
      • Allanee 3 months ago
        "the honest kind of a guy" Tony Blair has got it in his back pocket!!!
    • Santiago  •  Aberdeen, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      The NHS bill which thank god does not apply to Scotland; is not about making the NHS more efficient or more effective and not about improving patient choice. It is about the present government trying to reduce/cut resources to the NHS which it does not believe in or support and putting the blame for its eventual mismanagement on to local management boards. When things go wrong [and lets face it they are going wrong and it will get worse] the government will be able to say "its not our fault we have given these local groups the resources and they have set their priorities" and they carry the can. Bringing in the private sector is about profit not about quality of care. GP’s and consultants need to spend their time on clinical care not at board meetings and pouring over paperwork. Management time has to come from somewhere. Clinicians can also be political animals driven by personal agendas.

      The conservatives cannot be trusted with the NHS they lied about so called "care in the community". They said that it was about patient choice and that the individual could choose whether they wished to be cared for in their own home rather than in a nursing home or hospital. History has proved that they then went on to close thousands of hospital beds; acute, long-stay; psychiatric and geriatric. Local authorities closed thousands of places for the elderly in the homes which they run, and resources in the community have been eroded ever since because of cuts in government funding. The result is that care in the community now means that thousands of elderly people have to pay private nursing homes for their care and use up their resources and sell their homes, just because the state no longer cares for them or about them. The vulnerable chronic long term psychiatric patients who are not acutely ill but need support are left floundering in a community which does not care.
    • Santiago  •  Aberdeen, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      David C & Nick C; Liar Liar pants on fire; It may be childish but it made me feel better!!!
    • Allanee  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      NHS,.. no referendum,... veto (oh sorry now it,s a non veto) on euroland policies, parachuting friends into £8.5 million paid by the taxman!! That,s why the lead has gone , we,re back to the days of "the honest kind of a guy" and the forty thieves!!! Happy days are here again!!..... oh sorry that,s not for us..... we,re getting shafted again!!!!!
    • andyandjill  •  2 months ago
      everyone knows the coalition wants to privatise the n.h.s, why wouldnt they everything else has been, electricity,gas, rail etc, and is everything better no, their mindset is such that anything they can get shares in the greedy rich will jump at. if these reforms go through how long before foundation trusts will be able to float on the stock exchange.
    • Santiago  •  Aberdeen, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      Money is scarce, everyone knows that but this government is using the recession to instigate policies which were never in their manifesto and are more to do with opportunism and political dogma than good sense. David Cameron appears to forget that he did not win the last election outright and he is skating on very thin ice. The Liberal Democrats have sold out and appear to be impotent within the coalition. The labour party find it impossible to make hard decisions. What the NHS needs is a long term strategy which is agreed by all political parties and clinical experts. Continual organisational changes achieve precisely nothing. They are cosmetic, wasteful and often highly destructive.

      The conservatives tried to privatise the NHS through the “back door” before by the introduction of trusts and the purchaser/provider split. Indeed during Margaret Thatcher's time they did not even approve of calling it the NHS and simply called it "the health service". This same lady also maintained that “there is no such thing as society”. David Cameron maintains there is the “big society” in other words look after yourselves, because you can’t rely on us to do it.

      For too long the public have been led to believe that the NHS is over-managed and miss-managed; this is simply not true. There are issues in regard to the planning, organisation and management; and allocation and use of scarce resources. But all successive governments have done is play with the problem and not deal with it. It is rather like presenting a plate of food to an anorexic [ no disrespect] they simply move the food around the plate creating the illusion that they have eaten something when in fact the ensuing chaos and mess means that it is difficult to see what has happened and they have eaten nothing.

      As a person who has several professional clinical qualifications and held senior management posts within the NHS for many years prior to retirement I have had first hand experience of the smoke and mirrors which was used to create the illusion of progress and commitment. It destroys clinicians; managers and staff and undermines morale and does nothing for the Quality of Patient Care. The public must see these so called reforms for what they are before it is too late; the health professionals already do.
    • beefheart  •  Bolton, England  •  3 months ago
      Yahoo will not print the truth. They are a tool of the government. Don't believe any of it.
    • Blondie  •  Brighton, England  •  3 months ago
      Maybe the BNP will gain seats because we can't trust any of the other parties they have proved it, with broken promises the lot of them, so let's try a new party hey !