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    • neptune  •  Panama City, Panama  •  4 months ago
      men of extreem personal courage and fortitude,after them came the heros of the trench warfare and the blind obedience which formed the backbone of the british armed forces,and what built the british empire,and cemented the necessity of team work to overcome personal pain and fear.
      after the second world war,values changed,and the atitudes of goverments became holier than thou!!
      do gooders ,tree huggers and the likes made these heros out as self serving individuals,instead of the real heros they were.
      i am a still serving captain who is in his fiftyfith year at sea,and in that half + century i have seen the values drop,and discipline frowned upon,i myself still run my vessel with an iron but fair hand,because in times of disaster it is the well discilined team that saves lives,and can pull you back from the brink of disaster.
      i therfore salute these brave men and their contempories,i also salute shackleton,i have traced his footsteps and visited his grave on south georgia,were i bowed my head and gave my salutations.
      • Bobby Bone-head. 4 months ago
        55 years at sea? you need a compass.
      • Keith 4 months ago
        So there are still a few like us who think the same - I to spent 28 years in the Royal Navy, starting as a humble seaman and leving as a Warrant Officer. When i left, I hardly recognised the service I had joined, it had been inflicted with every politically correct measure our libreral society could inflict, and damaged beyond repair - I am so glad I served when i did, with Captains and admirals who still had some knowledge of the hard life, and Second World war. Technology is great, but without true leadership and discipline, no advantage.
      • Keith 4 months ago
        There were lots of reasons for the failure. Scott took 5 men in the end not the planned 4 for which all their rations of food were based on. The food itself lacked sufficient calories - they were starving to death. But mainly it was the unseasonal weather they encountered - if you look at the records, they experienced weather conditions (extreme blizards and cold) that only occure in Anartica once every 20 years or so - they were very unlucky. If it was not for the weather, I am sure they would have made it back successfully. It still amazes me, that given the exceptionally cold conditions they encountered and the condition of their clothing, they got as far as they did, and within 14 miles of One Ton Camp on their return - something that every Englishman should be proud of.
    • Big Manfred  •  4 months ago
      I'm a hiker with all the modern gear but in winter up in the Cairngorms I find hard going at times those man amaze me ultimate hard men if you ask me.
      • ELAINE 4 months ago
        Well said... I lived on the edge of the cairngorms and know how often the mountain rescue went out... these places are dangerous in hazardous conditions in a way people who have never got away from their tv set will ever realise... I admire your comment :@}
      • Big Manfred 4 months ago
        Elaine your one luck lady you live in one of the most beautiful part of the country and the world if ask me and I'm so glad most armchair commentors will never go there and find out for themselves, they might just spoil it.
      • Bloke down the pub 4 months ago
        Big Manfred, Elaine, I couldn`t have put it better myself. The Cairngorms are one of the most beautiful areas that I can think of, but also one to be treated with respect.
    • Elizabeth  •  Antakya, Turkey  •  4 months ago
      All you people who wrote such disgusting remarks should read captain Scott's Diary again. Of course many mistakes were made . The wrong diet made them weakened ,also horses were used because in those days in England it was thought cruel to make dogs pull heavy loads . What did they do ? after the horses could go no furthur they were sent back and the men pulled the loads. That is called bravery ,something that you would not understand. Also Captain Scott could I believe, have continued the last 12 miles by himself on the return journey but again he didn't desert his men.who were hardly able to walk
      I watched a TV program last year about a group of men who tried to follow the same route as Scott , They failed and had to be airlifted out !
      Scots expedition was like scientists going into Space today.. They are travelling into completely unknown territory and no one to help them for months on end.In fact scientists know more about space now than Scott and his men Knew about the South Pole. but it didn't stop them going. Also in case you don't know they collected rock samples for Geologists to study ,These samples have given invaluable information about the area after using modern minerological testing methods .
      I read Scott's diary when I was about 14 years old and I can remember crying to think of them dying in those Terrible conditions. I appreciate their Patriotic and Heroic efforts . They certainly didn't die in vane as you seem to think.
      Elizabeth Engin (Ballinger)
      • ROBERT 4 months ago
        Yes Elizabeth i agree with you what you say is right and very true them that critise should try it themselves before they opep there mouth yes we are all intitled to our openion but not to down someone that is not around to defend thenselves
        Robert Leask Shetland
      • arthur 4 months ago
        Good for you two Robert and Elizabeth some of them nowadays can't even manage to get through Bank Holiday because their local supermarket closes for the day.
      • jogas 4 months ago
        yes ! we can all be wise with the aid of hindsight.But let's not forget that these extraordnarily brave men didn't have the benefit of todays knowledge or technology. I'd liketo bet that some of the people making inane comments ,would get lost on their local high street without the helpof in car Sat Nav.
    • Paul  •  Brighton, England  •  4 months ago
      A different time, a different era.....Don't forget that this was just prior to the Great War, where Honour and Courage meant everything to men of that time. Shackleton and Scott were hard taskmasters of the Officer Classes, and led from the front.....and men like Oates willingly sacrificed themselves in a failed bid to save their companions. Men were shortly about to go over the top of trenches to certain death......I could not even begin to understand how they thought this way. Instead, we live in a time where men now sacrifice themselves....not to save lives, but in order to kill as many other people as possible, and our Political Leaders want to lead us into the Abyss, but save their own skins and get rich in the process.
      • Girosnooty 4 months ago
        The Boer war .Scotts failings,and the Titanic made the Germans see GB as not invincible and had an impact on their thinking
      • David 4 months ago
        I don't believe anyone anticipated WWI in 1912, so even though it is true that this was not long before the Great War, I really doubt that affected the men on this expedition, courageous though they were.
      • Bloke down the pub 4 months ago
        I don`t think that it was a case of anticipation of a coming war, more the other way round. Scott, Shackleton and their peers had a set of values which continued into World war one. This is reflected in such things as the flood of young men volunteering when the war broke out. As Paul says, honour, courage and self discipline were qualities that were taken as read if you were to regard yourself as a man. Likewise the social organisation of the time made it natural that the officer class came from the upper classes who had been taught that they had a duty to lead and set an example of the virtues of courage, honour, self discipline, self sacrifice and responsibility for those they led. Those from the lower classes, on the whole, accepted this as the way that the world was. This was re-enforced by the church, service to God and one`s country was an unquestionable duty. The horrors of the trenches, the loss of so many of all classes, and in particular the upper classes, and the revolution in Russia led to a questioning of the old system.
    • Alan  •  Ilford, England  •  4 months ago
      I cannot fathom JUST how resolute and tough these men were. I had to de-ice my car windscreen today...........I was SO glad to get the heater on afterwards.....it was -2 for 3 minutes, NOT -24 for 6 weeks!
    • Coleman  •  Munich, Germany  •  4 months ago
      To commemorate this event two teams from the Army have recreated the race to the pole, one team taking the route by Amundsen and the other by Scott. After 76days of manhauling sledges the Scott team arrived at the South Pole - 100years to the day!!!!. I can't post links (probably a good thing) but if you search for Scott Amundsen Race you'll get to their website where they have been posting daily audio updates. After listening to their post you realize how the weather at the South Pole still calls all the shots even with todays technology.
    • CAROL W  •  Ilford, England  •  4 months ago
      It was so cold that the liquid in their blisters froze
      • ROBERT 4 months ago
        That is and what causes frost bite that is very sore P.S i am not from Edinburgh I am from Shetland
    • charlie r  •  4 months ago
      It was an expedition not a race. It seems that most people have forgotten that valuable data was collected. Maybe if they hadn't taken so much equipment or spent less time collecting collating they may have returned safely. Who knows?
    • *********1  •  Ashford, England  •  4 months ago
      thats when celebs were celebs and earned their status
    • mark b  •  Maidenhead, England  •  4 months ago
      lets face it these chaps had balls of steel for guts and brass for the cold
    • DAVID  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      I agree Mark with your comments.Lets see if anyone today could make it back with the same equipment & weather conditions
    • Girosnooty  •  4 months ago
      Whats not widely known is his son Peter the bird man was protected by the BBC from any bad publicity until just before he died . Scott had been blamed for years
    • Sam  •  Manchester, England  •  4 months ago
      Certainly were a bunch of heros for trying, I'm going out for a walk, I may be sometime!!
    • M  •  Liverpool, England  •  4 months ago
      Makes one proud to be British.
    • Shirl  •  4 months ago
      Whatever the outcome, or mistakes they were very brave men.
    • gene  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Pity they Didn't Take Dogs with them.!!
    • mac  •  Tripoli, Libya  •  3 months ago
      very brave men and their expedition despite the way it ended shows the price a man must pay for knoledge "man wants to know and when they sease to do so he is no longer a man"
    • Girosnooty  •  4 months ago
      His decision to take horses and tractors were mistakes .Amundsen used dogs. which became food when needed and he was brought up in those conditions
    • Colin B  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Soooo.... When are we gonna walk on the moon?
    • Ark Royal R09  •  Edinburgh, Scotland  •  4 months ago
      Such a waste of life for Nothing!