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    PM: Tackling Gangs 'New National Priority'

    Tackling gangs should be the "new national priority," the Prime Minister said as he blamed the recent riots on selfishness and family breakdown.

    The Prime Minister said a "social fightback" must follow the security response already announced.

    He began by attacking "moral neutrality" and relativism, where bad choices were explained as merely "different lifestyles".

    "We have been too unwilling for too long to talk about what is right and what is wrong," he said from Oxfordshire.

    "We have too often avoided saying what needs to be said - about everything from marriage to welfare to common courtesy."

    He blamed irresponsibility, selfishness and absent fathers for the riots as he and the Labour leader both delivered speeches offering their analysis of the nation's social problems.

    Describing the spate of disorder as a "wake-up call for our country", Mr Cameron said there had been a "slow-motion moral collapse" in the UK.

    "Irresponsibility. Selfishness. Behaving as if your choices have no consequences. Children without fathers. Schools without discipline," he said.

    "Reward without effort. Crime without punishment. Rights without responsibilities. Communities without control.

    "Some of the worst aspects of human nature tolerated, indulged - sometimes even incentivised - by a state and its agencies that in parts have become literally de-moralised."

    He called for an "all-out war" on gangs and gang culture, with tough punishments matched by a wider social agenda.

    The Prime Minister said he believed many rioters came from families with no father at home and communities where that seems normal.

    Policies will now have to pass a "family test" to ensure they support the values that keep people together, he explained.

    Mr Cameron also said the recently-introduced National Citizen Service should be available to all 16-year-olds as a rite of passage.

    He said the non-military programme "captures the spirit of national service" and can teach team-work to alienated youths.

    But as soon as he finished his speech, Labour leader Ed Miliband delivered his own analysis of the social problems facing the country.

    He restated his call for a full-scale inquiry into the riots and warned against knee-jerk policy responses.

    Mr Miliband agreed parental and individual responsibility are factors but said looters have not been the only ones to demonstrate greed and selfishness.

    "It's not the first time we've seen this kind of me-first, take what you can attitude," he said.

    He said reckless bankers, greedy MPs and phone-hacking journalists all helped create this culture.

    In an indirect attack on the Prime Minister, Mr Miliband said merely blaming others for the riots - the police, parents and a so-called underclass - was too simplistic.

    He also challenged Mr Cameron's view of family breakdown, arguing some single parents do a brilliant job while some two-parent families fail.

    Speaking from his old comprehensive school in north London, he continued: "The small minority who did this are not one race, one community, one age group.

    "They are British people from Brixton to Gloucester, Croydon to Manchester.

    "And to answer what has happened, we have to state the most inconvenient truth of all: yes, people are responsible for their actions.

    "But we all bear a share of responsibility for the society we create," Mr Miliband added.

    Shadow minister Tessa Jowell backed his call for an inquiry that engages with communities and listens to the wisdom of people with experience of tackling issues such as gangs.

    She told Sky News the the opposition want "real change" that takes place "under the radar of screaming headlines".

    Now the immediate security concerns appear to have passed, both leaders want to seize the initiative politically.

    But Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said cross-party cooperation was key.

    "We've got to stop nit-picking, playing games with this, pretending there's some kind of political advantage to be gained," he told Sky News.

    "The truth is we are all in this one together and we've got to get out of it together."

     

    1,176 comments

    • The Hugh Man  •  9 months ago
      Whatever is said, whatever is done, will have no integrity or meaning in tackling crumbling morality while those making the statements are guilty of the very thing they seek to change.

      Zero Tolerance starts at the top. Every MP who looted the public coffers or use loopholes to avade tax should set an example and resign immediately.
      • Pamela 9 months ago
        MPs have to lead by example - those who talk the talk need to walk the walk. Having a couple of MPs jailed is not going to change the perception the public have. The system needs to be changed - they get a salary, and they should not be allowed to get money to refurbish their homes in any way, and any house they buy as a 2nd home should belong to the public purse once they leave office. Better still, Parliament should build a hostel for MPs and they can stay in there when they have to be in parliament...that will cut down on massive hotel and travel costs. The MPs have no right to complain about the disobedience of last week - people looted , yes but they looted for a reason - to be noticed, to express their voice, to make money....money they crave so badly whilst MPs just fritter and fraud away with ease and nil conscience. No difference in actions really - but MPs will not see they did wrong, and that wrong needs correction. Rich or poor, criminality has no place in this society...HYPOCRITES.
      • ronnie 9 months ago
        Yes Hugh Man, And every single one who stole our money, has to do time, well they did the crime.
      • Anne 9 months ago
        and what about the bankers, and what about the press (eg, News of the World), and what about police press officers, etc......
        quite right, it has to start at the top otherwise Cameron's whining will be seen for what it is - moral spouting from a rulers with no integrity.....
    • black beard  •  9 months ago
      thieveing,,,robbing,,scaming,,lieing,,false accounting,,embeselment,,etc etc and thats just our politicians
      • STEVE 9 months ago
        I thought I spoke and understood English but obviously my school failed me-I have just realised that I cannot spell. Scaming, lieing, embeselment...back to school for me I think! :s
      • rickydoodleass 9 months ago
        Its probably deliberate miss-spelling to make you think a well educated MP or similar with a grudge is a pleb....
      • Exhausted Vent 9 months ago
        Don't be a tit Steve, you know what he's saying.
    • equaliser  •  9 months ago
      THE truth is there as always be plenty of yapping and what needs to be done/ and what is going to be put in place , BUT WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN.
      SWEET F.A. AS USUAL.
      • dido 9 months ago
        Thats a very cynical view equaliser, however it is spot on. THey can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.
      • A Yahoo! User 9 months ago
        PM: Tackling Gangs 'New National Priority'
        -------------------------------------------------------

        Ah, I get it. The PRIORITY is handling Gangs, not pursuing the Hacking Investigations, then, eh? So the Met will have to peel off officers from the Hacking Investigations to deal with "THE NEW PRIORITY."

        God, that Cameron is getting desperate to slow down or frustrate that series of Hacking Investigations. He must be having constant bowel movements to be spending all his day on matters concerning the Police, when he should be sorting out the economy and growth. I suspect the investigations are touching onto some very sore nerves.... and if they can just keep on at it, without any interference from Cameron and the mogul boy, we might just get...... yes..... we just might get... an arrest. An arrest of.... James!!! OMG, I am getting excited again...... Yahoooo!
      • WJ 9 months ago
        Just a minute, the sentence of a decade lessons to be learned. Easy said nothing changes when the horse as bolted. All he can think about is asking advise from the American's whoop's remember Blair years back. I rest my case
    • Buckle  •  9 months ago
      Moral's £10.5K a week holidays whist OAP are freezing to death during winter. The 50p tax removed due to it's not bringing in enough money. Government employees claiming non-residential tax status ( Northern Rock) Ministers having offshore bnk accounts. Government property sold at bargain prices (Harrier jets, Olympic Village ). Foriegners jumping the housing queue over the local populace. One of the biggest gripes I heard at anytime was when housing stood empty for sometime, were suddenly redecorated, furnished including white goods ( I had to buy my daughter a cooker because social services deemed them non essential) then given to asylum seekers. Who promptly sold the white goods as they only needed one of each between them.
      Get your own house of Morals in order before criticising others
      • R.. 9 months ago
        Why did you have to buy your daughter a cooker? My parents never considered buying me one! More importantly why, tell me, should one be provided by Social Services? I must assume your daughter is one of the army of single parents expecting us tax payers to pay for her sexual irresponsibility! Its your fault you should have taught her contraception and saved us all money!!!
      • P 9 months ago
        yep you should tell your daughter to get a job and buy her own cooker scrounging low lifes want it all for NOWT
      • A Yahoo! User 9 months ago
        Hi, Buckle. I guess you got most of it there, all adding up to: "Media influence", then, eh?
    • Ade  •  9 months ago
      A wake up call for the country, the public have known discipline and morals were in decline for decades and the politics did nothing.
      • Chapman 9 months ago
        are we not also responsible for that.
      • Zac 9 months ago
        We should as a people now be voting on how to handle our own issues We don't need politicians or to look to anyone else to take responsibility for creating a whole new society based on majority plebiscite.
      • Alan 9 months ago
        You might be.
    • Dion.  •  9 months ago
      I heard Gerald Kaufman MP calling for tough justice for looters,yet in 2006 he tried to claim £8,950 on expenses for a top of the range Bang and Olufsun TV.He and other MPs have all been guilty of looting.Bankers and utility bosses loot millions in bonus.Some loot the inland revenue.Before they can start pointing the finger at what are mainly unemployed rampaging youths they should take a look at what those at the top are up to..
    • Lionel  •  9 months ago
      Get your house in order!
      The problem is greed. The financial sector is steeped in institutional avarice; the lawyers who plundered the compensation to asbestosis victims, the lawyers who plundered the Maxwells; the bankers who destroyed the Western economy by seeking outrageous personal enrichment, but who continue to ring their self-righteous hands with millions in bonuses; economic immigrants who are allowed into the country to take from the welfare state at the expense of our own less advantaged members of society. The list seems endless. And who controls this 'me me' society - politicians who have never been properly brought to account for their own avaricious expenses claims. I do not defend the rioters, but how can we blame them uniquely for the moral state of the country when those who enjoy all the social advantages take us for a ride.
      I repeat - get your house in order!!!!!
    • Concerned  •  9 months ago
      Yet again the teachers get blamed for poor classroom discipline. Two points to make here: Successive government policies have taken any form of discipline away from the teachers. The softly softly socialist approach does not work! Praise the badly behaved when they behave??????What about praaise for those who do behave. Secondly why are parents not disciplining their children any more. I have four children. All went to school knowing they were to behave when they were at school and if not to face the consequences when they got home. Parents shouldnt have children if they are not prepared to bring them up to become responsible adults! Teachers are continually being asked to be the childrens parents!
    • bikko  •  9 months ago
      If you cannot discipline your child without someone crying "abuse", If adults are truly afraid of teenagers as we now are, If police are completely helpless when teenagers vandalise a street, If MP's falsify expenses and get away with it, If tenants live in your house without paying and there is nothing you can do about it, If fees are increased beyond the reach of most people, If banker justify high bonuses, wrecking the economy, if if if ....then this is what you have. Where are you going to start? David, where?
    • Pee Pee  •  9 months ago
      Here you are MR.Cameron.

      I will be your unpaid advisor.

      F irst thing you do.Sort out the corruption and greed and fiddling of expenses in Parliament. MOST of them were at it, in some way, including you Mr Cameron. The new scheme is worse , apparently.

      Then look at your cabinet,. Phillip Hammond, transport Sec. (DIS PATCHES> CHANNEL 4) one of the richest men in the cabinet avoiding paying taves. You apponted Green(BHS) as an advisor. He does everything to avoid paying taxes .

      Then look at your mates .The Murdoch clan.And your friend Andy Coulson. Corruption and Greed .Ammoral.

      A convenient 'blind eye' to the city , who donate so much to your party.

      Look at the example YOU and BORIS set at Oxford.

      Look at how some people are expected to live. THEY will never get to university now. No hope or prospects. No hope.

      If you are looking at 'our' moral standing Mr Cameron, I suggest you actually start at the top with the richest and most powerful. THEN you can tell us what is wrong!!!!
    • LES  •  9 months ago
      Cameron says we don't need an enquiry we know whats wrong. How can he know sat in his protected ivory tower with money to burn. He knows nothing about the lives of ordinary people.
    • mark c  •  9 months ago
      why is this goverment just blaming single parents
      thats wrong and false so your telling me all those
      who where in the riots and looted came from a single parent background
      yeah rightttt but i suppose thats easy for them to come out with
      its not just kids off council estates that cause all the trouble
      look on your posh estates aswell oh people wont like me for saying
      posh kids cause trouble aswell
    • Mags  •  9 months ago
      "wake-up call for our country" Children without fathers. Schools without discipline," how dare you blame fathers and teachers. Do you think the people need a wake up call? Well here is one who doesn't, We already do know what's going on, we don't need a lot of MP's sitting in Downing street to tell us. You took away our rights to chastise our children, if we smacked our children, it was quick quick phone the social services. Then we get taken to court for abusing our children, I know what's best for my children, they know the difference between right and wrong, they are polite and well rounded young people. When I was a child and I did wrong my father put me across his knee and gave me what for, didn't do me any harm, even the police when I was young would give you a good clip around the ear if you didn't say please or thank you. We could leave our doors open all day and night and not have any fear of anyone taking what didn't belong to them. Come on Cameron get a gip, try listerning to the adults they really do know what's best, let us do OUR jobs as parents.
    • C. Nicholl  •  9 months ago
      There certainly is a need for a " fundamental review " of the judicial system. Sadly it has taken recent events to focus politicians minds. For a great number of years it appears more concern has been shown for the rights of the convicted than that of the victim. The police have at times a difficult and thankless task in apprehending suspects only for some of the judiciary to hand out sentences to the guilty which bewilder society.
      There appears to be no consistency in sentencing, moreso in cases of a persons life being lost through an act of violence. With every respect to all families concerned, I suspect it matters not how your loved one lost their life. The fact is someone deprived them of life, and the sentence for such should if not be similar, be at least consistent.
    • Arthur  •  9 months ago
      The state "punishes" crime and pockets the proceeds (fines etc) but the state was not the direct victim. Crimes damage people so focus justice on the criminal FULLY repaying the damage done to the true victim and thereby making the cost of the crime totally transparent to the criminal.
    • stemoooo  •  9 months ago
      I think people need to start growing up, just because people in power are corrupt with selfish motives does not mean that we can excuse violent criminal behaviour.
      The riots were not a political revolutionary act they were crimes by idiots without the constraint of proper justice to sway their actions.
      Start at the top? No start at your own home, your own doorstep, we all have a responsibilty to make sure the world we live in is as good as it can be for yourself and those around you. We have a responsibility to look after our communities and instill the right moral views to our children.
      I cant control what the bankers, politicians, teachers, police, parents do, but i can control my own actions, and can say that i live the right way within my own means. Im not rich but im not going to grumble, i should have worked harder at school, that was my choice and my fault.
      We are all given a chance in life and its our choices that determine the course our lives take.
      Parents- discipline- without this children will learn that there are no consequences to their negative actions.
      Children-Respect- you are liable for your own actions and the world will not give a good life for free.
      Politicians-Humility- the people make you what you are, repay us with a system that works.
      Police-Honour- withold the law without discrimination to the best of your ability.
      Teachers-(see parents)

      We are all to blame and trying to excuse that is pathetic and will inevitably lead to chaos as currently being so wonderfully illustrated.
    • ok  •  9 months ago
      Ok everyone. Almost all of you have hit the nail on the head of what has caused all this trouble in our Country. There are some who have come up with the answers of what will put it right. Let all the comments from now on tell the Government what to do and what we want from them, and please be realistic. Make a wish list.
    • LAUGHING HYENA  •  9 months ago
      E-mail a Tory MP to let him/her know of Cameron's rank hypocrisy (and their own). Are we really going to let this shallow-thinking hypocritical @#$% pontificate about falling moral standards ? Also e-mail a lib and labour MP to warn them not to be foolish enough to fall into the tories" must work together" mantra that is the growing tory strategy - (the saying it, no intention of doing it). It is merely their latest strategy to try to stop Labour pointing out that, a) failed morality is massive at the top, and b) tory greed and "look after number one" philosophy, coupled with huge inequality/income gap are the real reasons for the looting. The tories have secretly worked it out and are now thinking up ways, daily, of this conclusion reaching wide public consciousness.
    • may  •  9 months ago
      Sick of Cameron stating the bl**ding obvious, while trying to make himself look commanding and in control. Is this what we pay all those twats for? It's time for a massive change, before this country collapses altogether. It doesn't take rocket science to know that none of these parties work anymore, and haven't done for decades...........
    • Big John  •  9 months ago
      This idiot can say what he likes. Words don't mean anything from those people any more. This country is finished; too far along the road to change without a massive political upheaval and subject to ridiculous European laws and the stupid political correctness that comes along with it.

      The politicians, the lawyers and the banks have created a situation where we can't be bothered to tackle them about their actions and as a result they get away with murder. They lie and cheat to us and steal from us without a second thought and without penalty to keep us dumbed down. They have morally, financially and without any control bankrupted us. Now they say they want to put it right?? An impossible task without a long term plan which will require a robust organised system to make it happen. No politician is strong enough or able going to get away with that even if they wanted to so just do us all a favour and shut the hell up.

      My view is that this country has been destroyed through greed and personal ambition over the past thirty years by a succession of bloodsucking scumbags given their position of power by us and who have systematically sold off our infrastructure to the private sector so they don't have to pay for it. These companies continue to return massive profits and whose shareholders (probably a few politicians and bankers amongst them possibly?) who's will continue to demand significant increases in profit from every year. So who's going to pay for that exactly? There not a lot of blood left in the stone my friends...it isn't a bottomless pit.

      As we have no infrastructure we have no industry and are now wondering firstly as we all lose the ability to earn how we are going to pay our way and also as we look for to the future why our kids don't have jobs?

      Apart from the major question as to what actually do our Government spend all the tax they re-coup from us on exactly who's kids want to be going to university getting themselves in massive debt to end up working in supermarkets or flipping burgers for God sake?

      Short term decision making fools.

      Blair was smart; the instigator of all this and Cameron won't be any different. Sucking up to everybody in the world to achieve his personal ambitions and to line his own pockets at the expense of us all. He didn't care about what he was doing to the country. His strategy was to place Labour in the middle ground make out we're all rich and can have everything we've ever wanted to keep us happy whilst pushing himself for European President. Blair should be hung for treason.

      We also pride ourselves on our tolerance as a race and our ability to give people a chance and base everything on the fact that all people in this country are basically good deep down. Newsflash. A lot of them aren't and are taking the mickey about the ones that are. What a good place to start! Maybe just maybe our 'masters' should start getting all this sorted out putting that right first....