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    RBS Boss Defends £800m Bonuses After £2bn Loss

    The chief executive of RBS has launched a robust defence of the £800m bonus pool paid out by the taxpayer-backed bank amid £2bn of losses.

    In an interview with Sky News business presenter Jeff Randall, Stephen Hester said bonuses for 2011 had been reduced to reflect the bank's performance.

    "We believe in pay for performance and that's exactly what we practise," he said.

    The total bonus pool has been reduced by 43% while bonuses in the investment banking arm, where year-on-year profits were down by about 50%, have been reduced by 58%.

    Mr Hester said it was "quite right" that bonuses had been reduced to reflect performance.

    But he said the remaining bonus levels were justified because the bank's overall performance last year had been "strong".

    His comments came on the day that RBS announced its full-year results, posting overall losses of £2bn.

    It is the fourth consecutive year of losses at the bank, which is 82% owned by the Government and has been at the centre of a recent furore over pay and bonuses.

    Last month, Mr Hester waived his own bonus of £930,000 for this year following the political and public backlash.  

    Mr Hester explained that last year RBS made £6.1bn of profits in its core banking business - similar to those made by rival Barclays - but his bank was dragged down by "the biggest timebomb on a balance sheet ever in history - the RBS legacy".

    RBS was given a £45bn bailout by the taxpayer during the height of the financial crisis, rescuing it from collapse.

    Fred Goodwin , recently stripped of his knighthood, was in charge at the time.

    Mr Hester said the bank's current leadership had reduced RBS's debts by £700bn over the last three years - a sum that is twice the size of the debt of embattled Greece - but that involved bringing forward losses to reduce risk.

    In further defence of the bonus payouts, he said the investment banking arm had made £11bn of profits over the last three years - "profits that if we didn't have, the taxpayer would have to put their hand in their pocket for another £11bn for RBS".

    Mr Hester added: "It's important that we have good people making progress with these banks, both taking away legacy losses and creating profits that once we have paid for the legacy losses will drive the share price in the future."

    Despite a recent increase in the RBS share price, stocks remain well below what the Government paid for them in 2008, making the prospect of taxpayers breaking even as remote as possible.

    Sky's Jeff Randall said RBS' share price was the "most uncomfortable element" for Mr Hester since it is the "City's running commentary on how you are doing".

    RBS shares were worth about 9p each when Mr Hester took over from Mr Goodwin at the bank, and while they rose to about 55p a couple of years ago they have since gone down to around the 22p mark - leaving the taxpayer with a £20bn shortfall.

    Randall added: "Many people - taxpayers - will ask, quite properly, how it is if we are losing all this money we are still paying bonuses?"

    Prime Minister David Cameron, who was accused of stoking an anti-business climate during the row over Mr Hester's bonus, said he was content with the bonuses being paid to RBS staff this year.

    He said RBS had rightly become the "back marker" when it came to bankers' pay.

    On Thursday, Mr Cameron gave a speech to the Business in the Community charity warning against hostility towards UK businesses and calling for responsible capitalism.

    He said: "Today business needs champions, more than ever. In recent months we've heard some dangerous rhetoric creep into our national debate that wealth creation is somehow anti-social, that people in business are out for themselves.

    "We have got to fight this mood with all we've got.

    "Not just because it's wrong for our economy, because we need growth and jobs but because it's wrong for our society."

     

    51 comments

    • Daisy  •  Gillingham, England  •  3 months ago
      You can't defend the indefensible without disrespecting your audience. BONUS TIME COMES WHEN IT'S ALL BEEN PUT RIGHT.
      We (The public) didn't mis-sell PPI. We didn't gamble with other people's cash. We didn't screw the world economy. It's no good saying the people who did it have gone because
      a] they haven't

      b] the current incumbents are culpable by association - they have moved in to the company and must put it right before the gravy train comes back to town.

      c] Fred the shred is still not in the clear - he just thinks he is.
    • Jillian  •  Stockport, England  •  3 months ago
      Bonuses should NOT be paid until the RBS is making money not losing it. How the hell can you pay a bonus on losing money?!!!!!
      • bob 3 months ago
        reward for failure if you're a banker..given the boot if you're not
    • Mark  •  3 months ago
      ".....the bank, which is 82% owned by the Government......"

      This is a lie. It is 82% owned by us, the British taxpayers. Perception has to change in the UK. The government does NOT have ANY money of its own. ALL 'government money' is taxpayers' money. The PM, cabinet and all the ministers / MPs etc are public employees. THEY work for US. They are responsible and accountable to US. We employ them. They would do well to remember that. And so would we.
    • Ever Hopeful  •  Reading, England  •  3 months ago
      The government should strip this bank of it's assets to reclaim the cash wasted in bailing it out in the first place. Use the money to better use elsewhere, where people need it most. That way we can have our cake.
      • COLIN 3 months ago
        what assetts, they grab this then you wont see your money again
    • anthony  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      so they get a bonus because the bank lost money. god knows what they would get if the bank was making money, , seems dole queue best place for them ,
    • A Yahoo! User  •  3 months ago
      Unbelieveable !!! How the F*** can you make a £2 billion loss and pay out bonuses of £800 million. Surely without the bonuses the loss would only??? have been £1.2 billion. It's about time something really serious was done about this immoral and obscene culture, but let's be honest all politicians from all parties have their snouts in the corporate trough.
    • Mann  •  Edinburgh, Scotland  •  3 months ago
      Some one switch the light on for Hester, your bank is running at a LOSS with our money, you don't deserve a bonus, if one is payable, then pay it to the people who do all the basics right.THE RETAIL ARM, not to some moron already on £100k +.
    • DAVID  •  Ilford, England  •  3 months ago
      if they have lost £2bl how have they got money to spare for bonuses
    • Reality Poet  •  3 months ago
      If they've made a loss of 2 billion pounds then where does the 800 million pound bonus pool come from?

      Surely bonuses should be paid from profits? Or is that too much common sense in this mad mad world.

      They should have been left to go bust, it worked in Iceland.
      • Daisy 3 months ago
        Absolutely, the profits (or an agreed proportion thereof) is the bonus pool. No profit, no bonus. Does this make me a genius?
      • Tony 3 months ago
        A bonus is not a share of profits. You are thinking of a dividend, which is something different.
      • Daisy 3 months ago
        Yes, Tony, but a company needs to be in profit for it's staff to have performed beyond expectation. The rest is damage limitation.

        I understand dividend perfectly well, thank you, and still say no profit, no excellence, no bonus.
        And hold off on the farm cracks, I'm not as stupid as you'd like to think.
    • Brigson  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      Stop arresting people for shoplifting and defrauding benefits. Because the state has legalised theft for the wealthy. That is tax-payers money these prats are pilfering - they have generated one single penny of wealth. Disgusting and immoral. This crony capitalism must end.
    • Arthur Johnson  •  Manchester, England  •  3 months ago
      Every engineering company, with a bonus system, that I have worked for only pays out from company PROFITS.
    • Wolf  •  Reading, England  •  3 months ago
      This is OUR money which they have lost and OUR money which they are stealing from us to pay bonuses. All this would not happen, had the government reached a different bail-out agreement= bonus payments ONLY once the tax payer has been re-paid/ this is just like a self-service-cash-machine, stripping the tax payer of even more money ....... Good night.
    • BRIAN SMITH  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      Which planet do these people come from.!!
      • Daisy 3 months ago
        Dunno - wish they'd bugger off back, though
    • master harpic  •  Hounslow, England  •  3 months ago
      Makes me wonder what planet these Bankers live on. Salaries and perks in 6 and 7 figures for doing their job to the best they can and so they should on that sort of money. Maybe Bankers and so called investment banking needs to be either strictly regulated like before or outlawed all together. They are all mentally ill and parasites of the World.
    • El  •  3 months ago
      Bonuses are supposed to be given for those who do an exceptional job; not a bunch of public school retards who couldn't even pass a Business Studies GCSE.
      • Farry 3 months ago
        I'm on you with this. Point made!
      • sinalco 3 months ago
        Just look who the chief honcho @ number 11 is, & research his experience in finance, and then you would appreciate the real irony...
    • Aladenas Malik  •  3 months ago
      ITS OUR BANK,ITS OUR MONEY FOR GODS SAKE !
      They get a good salary and that should be all they get until we get our money back.WE KEPT 'EM IN A JOB.
    • E  •  3 months ago
      No one would mind these people getting a bonus if the bank was in profit and taxpayers were getting a return
    • Daisy  •  Gillingham, England  •  3 months ago
      Bugger it, I'm writing to Cameron. I've had enough. If we all did, at least his minions could while away a month or two ignoring us.
    • shadowman40  •  London, England  •  3 months ago
      hang on a minute wasnt it said at the beginning of the week it was £400million where,s this extra £400 million come from no wonder they r running at a loss they just dont know what thier doing or it seems add up bet if the books were looked at they r more than 2billion lost
    • Ken Hoggle  •  3 months ago
      I suppose certain sectors of RBS are producing relatively large profits. But surely all the parts should be run together and treated as one bank - otherwise it should be split up. What about shareholder dividends? Finally, if the present leadership have repaid £700bn of bank debt, why isn't someone being charged for financial crimes for the past. If they have repaid this vast sum over three years, what is the total debt?