Calls to ban campers taking over beauty spot car park

Some motorhomes take up extra parking spaces with their equipment
-Credit: (Image: John Horrigan)


Local residents claim that attempts to resolve parking issues at a well-known beauty destination in Eryri have backfired and created even more mayhem. Major resurfacing work was done at Y Glyn, or "the lagoons," near Llyn Padarn in Llanberis, to construct 114 parking places and a "Arosfan" campervan facility - similar to the concept of Aires in some European countries. However, residents claim that the area has now turned into a free for all campsite due to issues over ticket machines and height barriers not functioning. WalesOnline readers are divided on the issue and have been having their say in our comments section.

Cyngor Gwynedd Council originally took action in an attempt to restore order to the busy site, however it has been hit with issues. Locals claim more than 95 campervans and dozens of tents spent the night at the location two weeks ago - despite tents not being permitted.

North Wales Live has reported that the council has responded to criticism and said they will be arranging for a security company to return this summer to monitor the area during weekends and school holidays. They added work will begin on repairing the payment machines. For the latest Welsh news delivered to your inbox sign up to our newsletter

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Commenter Joe1ninety says: “The slobs always ruin it for everyone else. In Rhyl there are always half a dozen campervans parking next to the harbour, I've never seen any litter there, they take it all with them or put it in bins. The whole point of a campervan is the economy of it, who wants to go to all the expense of buying and maintaining a camper van and then go to the extra expense of paying to park it every night. Target the slobs and leave the responsible campervan people alone.“

Derby agrees: “The 'war' on Campervans is biased discrimination. Can someone explain the perverse logic of allowing 24hr parking but you can't sleep in your campervan that is parked overnight? Why should Campervans have to pay on average £30 per night to park in a field? Or pay to use a small amount of electricity when EVs can charge for free at the public's expense?”

Litter discarded next to a van at Y Glyn
Rubbish left by one vehicle -Credit:John Horrigan
BBQs and plastic bottle litter the ground by tents pitched illegally by the Lagoons
Camping is not allowed on the site -Credit:John Horrigan

Excab4man writes: “As usual the council are ignoring the locals , the security company is obviously not doing the job that they are contracted to do. Yet local councils adopt a head in the sand attitude and will not accept what the local villagers are showing and telling them! It is always the few who have to spoil things for others unfortunately.”

Madmax13 thinks differently: “Perhaps the local camping facilities are charging too much? Try cutting the prices. Stop being greedy. Then maybe you will have customers.”

Jeffwales thinks: “The solution to this shambles is easy and straightforward. Impose an overnight parking fee of £30-40 (or more) on all campervans, many car parks have locked barriers erected across them which prevent camper vans gaining entry whatever the time of day or night...There are numerous parks situated around the area that cater to campers and which provide toilets etc. The authorities should take more proactive steps to stop these people damaging these places.”

Rhidster agrees: “Enforcement Enforcement Enforcement. It's the only way to get the message across. The site needs 24/7 monitoring. How people can go to beautiful locations and leave litter is beyond me. Fine them and ban them for six months.”

Fifth_account can see a catch with this approach: “The problem with permits for wild camping is actually getting a person to the remote locations to check the permits at night, before the campers move on in the morning. Which is the biggest issue of enforcing the laws for wild camping.”

Dynglas has a solution: “It's why we need a tourist tax, and there should be policing of the area with parking fines. If there is that volume of people on the sacred mountain then they should charge every vehicle.”

Garwillis32 disagrees: “Why should these areas just be used for locals? I've been motorhoming for years, treated the areas I visit with nothing but respect and more importantly spent my hard earned money in these areas to keep the local trade alive, if it wasn’t for us these communities wouldn't survive.”

How do you feel about free camp sites? Do they benefit the local area? Have your say in our comments section.