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    RBS 'Set For 4,000 Job Cuts Amid Boss Bonus'

    Up to 4,000 more jobs at state-owned Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS.L - news) are set to be cut amid reports the head of the affected division is due to receive a £4m bonus this year.

    It comes despite the Prime Minister saying he plans to stop bosses being rewarded for failure.

    The fresh job cuts are expected to be announced on Thursday in the investment banking arm, Sky sources say.

    And they will come on top of 2,000 posts which the bank - 83% owned by the British taxpayer - said last summer would be lost.

    Sky City editor Mark Kleinman said: "RBS will outline a restructuring plan that will see its global banking and markets (GBM) operation shrunk to reflect pressure from the Government for it to retreat from its ambition to be a global investment banking powerhouse.

    "It will reflect the desire of George Osborne, the Chancellor, to see RBS cut back its investment banking arm."

    Kleinman added: "Once the new cuts have been implemented, it will mean that in total up to 11,000 posts in RBS's investment bank, which currently employs 19,000 people, will have been slashed from the pre-banking crisis headcount of 24,000 staff."

    John Hourican, the head of RBS' investment banking arm, is in line to receive the special bonus in April as part of a long-term incentive plan linked to the acquisition of ABN Amro in 2007, says the Financial Times and Daily Telegraph newspapers.

    However, responding to the report, an RBS spokesperson told Sky News that it was "completely inaccurate to imply that any decisions have been taken" over payouts.

    Mr Hourican was chief financial officer at ABN Amro Group before heading RBS' investment bank.

    The 71.1bn euro (£59bn) takeover of the Dutch bank played a significant role in the failure of RBS.

    At the bank's annual general meeting in 2009, the then-chairman of RBS, Sir Philip Hampton, said: "With the benefit of hindsight it can now be seen as the wrong price, the wrong way to pay, at the wrong time and the wrong deal."

    David Cameron has said he is determined to end the "merry-go-round" of super-rich bosses rubber-stamping each other's enormous salaries and being rewarded for failure, adding that he wants to make changes this year.

    In an interview with Sky News he said he would not comment on individual cases but suggested the RBS deal may have been agreed before his administration came to power.

    "We've taken tough action... the overall level of bonuses has come right down but we're looking more broadly at top pay to make sure it is linked to success," he said.

    A Downing Street spokesman said UK Financial Investments, which represents the Government's interests as a shareholder in partly state-owned banks, will "engage with RBS to discuss executive pay over the coming weeks and will make sure that pay reflects and rewards performance".

    The Government holds 83% of the shares in RBS, but ministers cannot intervene directly in decisions on bonuses, as the bank is operated at "arms length".

    Mr Hourican oversees 19,000 employees across 39 countries at the bank's global banking and markets division, which provides financing, risk management and advisory services to public and private institutions.

    The benefits expected in April are almost 29 million shares and options granted in 2009 as part of a long-term initiative to restructure the group, according to the Financial Times.

    However, in recent months RBS has been moving to offload assets, including the division that Mr Hourican leads, as it tries to repay some of the £45bn bailout it was given.

     
    • I  •  4 months ago
      Why do we bother? If I was an RBS customer, I would take out every penny I have in them and put it elsewhere. If you are, I urge you to consider it. This is a real kick in the teeth for tax payers. I voted Con, so am not impressed with the way this has been handled. Unfortunately I fear the situation would be the same no matter who was in government. We're up against a wall.
      • arthur 4 months ago
        I closed my accounts with RBS and they charged me £25 for doing so,I then contacted RBS by phone and told them they were thieves and I would charge them with robbery,3 weeks later I received a cheque for £25.I am now with the Cooperative Bank who seem to know what they are doing..........so far.
      • devlady 4 months ago
        well done you, hope others follow suit
      • I 4 months ago
        Spread the word, well done you. The only way we can get through to these people is by doing something ourselves. We clearly can't rely on the government to work for us. Take it all out.
    • Pumpkin  •  4 months ago
      Totally priceless - those who work their butts off for an average salary and sod all bonus get made redundant and someone who runs the company into the ground gets a £4m bonus and probably a promotion!!!
    • Ireland's Eye  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Why do you British put up with your government allowing this to happen?????? £4million would keep an awful lot of people in a job, paying taxes. This man will be able to offset his taxes into an offshore account - legally.
    • Enlightenedview  •  Hounslow, England  •  4 months ago
      The greed of these guys knows no bound. John Hourican destroyed the RBS by instigating and manipulating the takeover of ABN Amro, knowing full well that this takeover will allow him to get a big bonus. He and other greedy guys like him cared not an iota, whether the takeover is good for the bank, whether the price is right etc. They were hell bent for the takeover and get the bonus which is now stated to be £4 million. Instead of the bonus, he should be prosecuted for criminal offence. As in America, he should be handcuffed, paraded in public places and then thrown into a prison before even a prosecution charge is drawn.
      • Joaquin Gash 4 months ago
        And bummed relentlessly in the showers, by Mr Big who's well in with the Warders........I might add.
      • survivor 4 months ago
        Quite agree with you enlightenedview. Take your belief a step further and think about the old boys network where a business is sold like RBS so someone has made £40bn from the lies hidden in the balance sheet but the person responsible who gets sacked, simply walks into a job elsewhere. Smells just like the goldman sachs set up where they move into politics after working for them and then filter sensitive information back to GS.
      • M 4 months ago
        Have banked with them for nearly 40 years and had very little back from them.
    • Martin R  •  Brighton, England  •  4 months ago
      It is time this corruption was stopped,David cameron has a DUTY to all taxpayers to cancel this £4 million farce.No wonder people are protesting at St.Pauls.There will be more of this abject nonsense if the Government does not have the strength of conviction to stamp it out once and for all.
      No longer can Banks be controlled at arms length it simply does not work.They are entirely responsible for bankrupting our economy and creating a wealth gap that is simply out of control.
      • kram 4 months ago
        If Cameron actually stomps this out, it will be the first time in my life that I'll be voting for any party with actual conviction and trust. Lots of hard talk is no good. Actual changes are needed. Sometimes mistakes are made, but things will only get worse if nothing's done and the risks aren't taken.
      • Dave 4 months ago
        Cameron's comments are laced with cover ups and excuses. Not that it's different to any other leader but the corruption at the top seems to be a mot more serious that it used to be. Maybe it's a matter of more scrutiny and less hush from the media, due to our ability to share news and views amongst ourselves on sites like these. Martin, you say Cameron has a duty to all taxpayers? I would say that he sees his loyalty goes to those who pay his wages. We pay his basic wages, or official salary, but you can be sure he is getting paid on the side, whether it's in brown envelopes or retainers aplenty from the so called 'power people'.

        If there were any doubts, surely the revelation of Blair's personal fortune and his tax dealings show that things don't add up. I have nothing against anybody earning big bonuses if they have earned them fair and square. I actually think it's healthy to reward positive performance. The system needs an overhaul so that these deals are under public scrutiny, not Cameron's. Transparancy is the only way to minimise these shady deals, and this will only happen when enough people unite against the system in a civilized fashion. It would need to be swift because those at the top will stop at nothing to get what they want. Watch Loose Change 9/11 on Youtube. It doesn't provide too many answers but it asks some serious questions.
      • KYM 4 months ago
        Cameron should have have put a stop the bankers bonuses face from the MOMENT he got into power! But no, he let them carry on and getaway with murder. It's high time he opened his eyes rather than ignore everything and make the taxpayer bare the costs of the bankers greed!
    • MrCoolGuy  •  Leeds, England  •  4 months ago
      So this guy gets shares which have crashed since he was offered them.. tough....... looses his job as his division is sold off ..tough .....but presumably gets a redundancy pay off...... and STILL gets £4 mill in April....Yahoo!!........... We are in the wrong jobs folks!!!!!!!
      • survivor 4 months ago
        dont forget he can set off the loss on the share prices against any profits to reduce his tax.
      • hortis123 4 months ago
        Mr coolguy i agree with your comment but looses? loses.
      • Ron 4 months ago
        Hortis,it may be losses
    • OLIVER  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      It obviously pays to fail in the banking world, why must the taxpayers always be the losers. Come on Mr Cameron show what you are really worth and stop this payment before it is made.
      • Shaun 4 months ago
        If his contract stipulated this payment based on certain criteria then not to pay would be breach of contract and he would get paid anyway plus damages. RBS would be in breach of contract. Remove the emotions - it's all about following through on a contractual obligation. Whether it was a suitable contracts remains another discussion.
      • Pete H 4 months ago
        In that case the persons responsible for drawing up such a flawed contract should be made to pay. How can anyone with the merest hint of intelligence think that huge success = big bonus. Catastrophic faliure = a bit smaller bonus but not too much smaller or you'll lose the the fanancial mastermind to the competition who are clearly desperate to lose just as much money too.
        But what really makes people so angry is the apparent total lack of shame from those responsible. Dismal failiure should mean you get nothing.
      • Aunty-Janus 4 months ago
        Mr Cameron - the son of a (W)Banker - is never going to reel these people in. His whole raison d'etre is to protect his own kind. We plebs are just a means to their end. Work til you drop and don't expect to be able to leave anything to your family, because the Pension Funds, Insurance Companies, Government and Loan Shark Banks will have stripped your bones clean, before even your emaciated frame is cold. I hope they all rot in hell!
    • CATHERINE  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Makes me sick!! BUT no different to the Public sector and NHS big shot who write reports on how to save money while charging huge consultation fees. This gravy train will never end and the rich will get richer and the poor..... well who knows!
    • William  •  Thetford, England  •  4 months ago
      Totally WRONG!!! Should not be allowed!!
    • Aga  •  Manchester, England  •  4 months ago
      It doesn't make any sense, well, actually it does - that's why our country is in such mess....
    • survivor  •  4 months ago
      ABN Amro's chief financial officer? They were the bank that conned RBS and cost them and ultimately the taxpayer £40bn so why is he still with them and why is he to get any bonus? Talk about Institutional mafia, I cant believe this is being allowed to happen whilst ordinary retail bankers are being sacked and investment #$%$ allowed to have bonuses. Simple fact is that investment decisions are fairly easy,(yes I am qualified) its the level of risk thats not. Luck plays a lot in how much an investment grows and there appears to be a syndicate where purchases are made and if they go wrong, the purchaser gets sacked with a big pay off and simply walks into a job in a business connected to someone else in that syndicate. Its getting more smelly by the minute and people in the government must be aware so the question is why is nothing done.
    • DAVID  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      This is bloody disgusting when every body else are told you dont get a pay rise because we cant afford it how the hell do they get this when the banks got us in this mess to start with.
    • Darren  •  Newcastle, England  •  4 months ago
      Cameron WILL NOT do anything about this. He can't because if he starts imposing rules & regulations on the banks & big companies they'll just up & move abroad before long. No, Cameron is just coming out with all this #$%$ to appease the rest of us. But anyone with more than a peanut for a brain can work out that it could never happen.
    • crunchie  •  Cheltenham, England  •  4 months ago
      Mr Cameron.......words don't change a thing, it is time to put your money where your mouth is do something. Put off demonising the school cook, the nursing auxillary and the council worker and make the banking sector accountable for its performance. This Coalition is just a sham of a government.
    • Old Lady  •  4 months ago
      now that is realy taking the piss
    • Michael  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      RBS share price start of 2011, 40.8p. RBS share price end December 2011 20.1p. Destruction in shareholder value = 50%, bonus = £4m. How exactly does this work?
    • Bugsie  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      On the lunchtime news - a 30% increase in the number of people buying Rolls Royce cars - rather shows whats big bucks are being earned by some people - whilst others are being laid off and losing their jobs - just to keep a small % of the country in luxury.

      Tony Blair rakes in £12m but only pays £315,000 tax - if ever there was a man who should be investigated Blair is one.

      190 families in the UK with 10 children each who get £60k benefits a year.

      And pensioners are going to have to work into their 70s to fund all this. I think anyone who has an account with RBS should move banks - and if they are in a postion to - persuade their companies to change banks and stop their business going through RBS.
    • Simon  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Nice one, £4 million, well done pal for screwing the GB taxpayers, make sure you stick it in an off shore account so you avoid the income tax.
    • Iokanaan  •  London, England  •  4 months ago
      Obscene: no one is worth that amount.
    • ayup  •  Manchester, England  •  4 months ago
      Strange how we the tax payer now owns over 80% of the bank but the government can't or won't do anything about it, why?