He also discusses TfL's wider mission to get all their buses carbon neutral and how they’re trying to entice more people to ditch their cars.
This week, we're looking at the future of electric vehicles as the Evening Standard prepares for its #PlugItIn Summit in London.
Where global leaders will be meeting in the city to talk about how EVs can be part of ambitions to bring down carbon emissions to net zero by 2030.
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