Amanda de Cadenet on her most important conversations, calling out companies who don't support women, and hosting Channel 4's The Word at 15

Podcaster, business-owner and true multi-hyphenate Amanda de Cadenet chats to Kate about creating her game-changing series The Conversation, supporting women and calling out companies who don't, and the strange turn of events that lead to her hosting Channel 4's The Word when she was just 15 years old.

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AMANDA DE CADENET: 10 years ago when I launched the conversation, I was talking to women in a way that people weren't used to hearing and seeing. And people would say oh my God, I can't believe lady Gaga talked about drug addiction, and self-harm, and having sex with strangers. That was really shocking, and surprising, and vulnerable information and stories that women were sharing. And I really hope to do the same thing with men.

I want to know where men are at. They've had a huge cultural reckoning over the last few years. And I'm just curious to hear men's perspectives.

People talk a good game. There's a lot of bullshit out there. People pay lip service to whatever is the current thing that people need to be paying attention to. And for many years, no one gave a shit about women or inclusion, and now everybody does.

But do they? Because what I did with Girlgaze is I was like, look, everyone's complaining about not being able to have access to a pipeline of women. Well, here you go, I've aggregated and curated thousands of thousands of women in 46 countries, go ahead and hire them. And you actually see who puts their money where their mouth is. And guess what? It's way less than the people who are flying the flag, publicly saying that they do actually care about this issue.

Being in the children's home taught me some really valuable lessons. One of them was that I was able to find common ground with practically everybody in there, and it really did teach me that it doesn't matter what our outsides are. There is a common experience and common ground to be found, which is a connection point, for me, with practically anybody and that taught me a lot about interviewing people.